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Help, Wheel Balancer?
« on: December 30, 2008, 21:09:22 PM »
Does anybody know the correct way to work a wheel balancer?

Any tyre fitters out there  

Santa bought me one & it's a tad more complicated than I thought.

No instructions & I have not got a clue to be honest if I am doing it right or not.

It's a MONDOLFO FERRO MT2000

Here it is:

« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 22:28:12 PM by Dave »


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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 22:25:59 PM »
I shouldnt admit to this... Used to work at a Quick fit type place years ago and fitted tyres... :-S
Not used that exact one before but it should be self explanitory...

If my memory serves me correctly, used to put rim diameter, rim width, then there used to be a gauge that came outta side of machine to rest on rim edge (where ya measure from for rim width) with numbers on it, that figure also got inputed...

Then set it going when it stops turn wheel to spot it says wants weight on whichever side it says and knock it on... :-)

If i was there, chances are i could work it out but like i said never used that specific one...

So numbers you will put in are...15... 7... Then the gauge at side...
P.s make sure you mount the wheel correctly, alloys are mounted different to steels...

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 22:35:05 PM »

Yeah that makes sense.

There is a thing that pulls out with numbers on.

So I pull it out so it touches the side of the tyre then input the figure using button one?

O.K whats the different way of fitting the wheels to the machine then?

Also got this big like measuring thing like a compass. Think that's to measure the tyre width????

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 22:56:45 PM »
1) Pull out thingy... So it touches where the bead sits into rim not on the tyre...
2) Rim width... (not tyre) Use the compass thingy, so the points are hooked in the lip where the tyre bead sits...
3) Rim diameter...

4,5,6 Unsure... One has to be to start it... One maybe a calibration to make sure shaft of machine is true... Other maybe format info you have put in... :-S Ie finish... :-S

Like i said not same as what ive used but there all pretty straight forward...

As to mounting.... You should have some metal cone shape pieces that fit onto the shaft...?
Steel rims, put a cone on that allows the rims centre to sit on it, then clamp with wing nut style spindle thingy (all technical terms... LoL)
Alloys... put rim on then cone facing inwards so centre sits on it then clamp it should be summat that attaches to clamp to sit against cone as opposed to on steels where the clamp has bit attatched that clamps against wheel...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oRphkXKpz60]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oRphkXKpz60

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 23:11:10 PM »

That's fab mate.

Who is the sad people who put that stuff on you tube then, well I am truly thankful  

Looks like I have all them bits so will have another play tomorrow.

Thanks for the help Pin_cushion  
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 23:16:04 PM »
No worries dude, glad i could help someone instead of asking for help all the time :-D

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 23:25:40 PM »
going by memory...................


1 = wheel offset ????????????

2 = Wheel width i.e 7 inch yup

3 = Wheel Diameter i.e 15 inch yup

4 = Where I want the weights, edge for steel or stick ons for alloys etc. yup

5 = Some sort of set-up or calibrate it?(i cant remember ether but would it be tyre profile??)

6 = would that be fine tune the wieghts,, a 2nd run to get it as good as possible?//

 as above posting mostly.....

as it is on the display,,, its set for extrnal weights, you can select alloy wheels. motorcycle or CTS (steel) rims!
 once you have spun the wheel,(and it stopped spinning) rotate the wheel untill it shows the point  and wieght you need to fit )at the top i think.\ie, rotate the wheel and a light comes on for inside or out side and the numbers will show up.. thats the grams it needs at that point.
 

could be wrong!
« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 23:26:28 PM by maddoldbugger »

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 01:29:58 AM »
1) Maybe a version of offset as in offset to the machine as opposed to the wheels actual offset cause as far as i remember the pull out doesnt have + and - only numbers...

Not sure on bike wheels, didnt do them...
One of the crap balancers we had didnt have the attachment for solid centre wheels... Think saxo VTS had solid centres...
P.s all the measurements are for the rim none for tyre...

How come you got one of them for crimbo anyhow...?
Do you run your own garage?

Yup im nosey... :-D

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 02:02:17 AM »
Well I got a tyre changer & balancer.

Lots of things have changed for me in the last month.

My friendly Ford dealer who I had a great relationship with  
I've done gearboxes & engines for them has closed down.

A old guy who used to come & help me mess about with stuff has died!  
He would have known about this stuff.

And there's more that I won't bore you with.

Basically I have lost some of my free tools I could go & use so have to buy my own now.
Actually I never used them as they usally did it for me hence why I am a bit lost  

Anyway I am no garage or nothing just a man with a hobby & a big shed who does not want to pay stupid money to get a few tyres changed.


Tone when did you work for quick Fit then?
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 07:34:56 AM »
Bring it allong to ford fair and you can do all our ballancing

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2008, 17:57:27 PM »
Sorry to hear about bad stuff dude...
Fate is fate though... Your destined to be a tyre fitter... LoL... :-P

When i got the link off you tube saw a proper lazy ass (tyre fitting) machine meant to be used in Ferrari garage, put the wheel on and it does nigh on everything for ya :-O I wouldnt have gotten half as tired if place i was at had of had one of them... :-O

Jealous of your big shed... :-(

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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 19:43:15 PM »
Yeah the shed is good  

Balanced 4 alloys today & it is working well.

So I can confirm the below.

Button 1 is the measurement rim to the machine using the inbuilt measuring tool.

Button 2 is rim width as measured with the big caliper thing.

Button 3 is the rim diameter.

Button 4 is the desired placement of weights to be used.
5 placement combinations depending on wheel design, alloys, steel, stick-on weights, hammer on weights etc etc.

Button 5 I think is to self calibrate it but still not sure?

Button 6 still no idea what that does. Has a big F on it, maybe fine balancing?????

Figured out the different ways to mount the wheels.

I have 3 cones, a spring & two different locking nuts.

Can not do wheels with out a centre hole but who cares about that, I don't.

Cheers for the help.

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