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Marty

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« on: May 01, 2008, 13:31:38 PM »
I have always fancied an RS2000 (MK5/6) ever since seeing the add on TV in the early 90's and a couple of weeks ago came VERY close to buying a 96 one but I backed out due to lack of responce to questions I'd asked the seller.  Ever since I've been scanning ebay looking for a cheap one to fix up with my eldest son.

However!!!!! the guy who deliverd my seats yesterday (see http://fordpower.org.uk/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=5013&st=0#entry32860][b]HERE[/b] ) turned up in a late 92 RS2K so as I had NEVER driven one before I asked the guy could I take it for a spin  

I was sooo disapointed    it was a nice well maintained car near standerd and guy was a 'grown up' type not a twat who would have given it a hard life. Power below 4ish K was not great at all, a nice bit of power at approx 5K tailing off just over 6ish K. Handeling was nothing to write home about and the car just didn't feel 'together' missing a certain somthing  
Compared to a boggo 8V DOHC Sierra the Sierra had bags more low end but it tails off after 5K, but the RS performed alot better at higher revs.

I then let the guy have a go in my 3dr    there was NO comparison is all departments  
So if thats 150bhp I've no idea what mine is putting out    
So, now my quest for an RS2000 is at an end and it seems like all my theorys and ideas I had when I built my 16V paid off, cos they bloody work!!!!!!

Sierra 16v=RS2000 hunter  
« Last Edit: May 01, 2008, 13:33:40 PM by Marty »



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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 15:56:48 PM »
So where is the holy grail gonna lead you to now????

Marty

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 16:19:33 PM »
I think I already have it but didn't know

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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 18:04:38 PM »
Well done Marty. You keep the good work up and make sure you get other great ideas  

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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 22:27:35 PM »
Problem with the Mk5/6 RS2k is that the engine is way too heavy. Basically a 16v twinky like the Scorpio one.

And if you don't replace the suspension bushes every 2 years it's a nightmare to drive.

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2008, 11:13:39 AM »
i haven't met many people acutally impressed by the RS2000 in the Mk5+.

The 150horse it puts out is dificult to believe, a local lad had the engine in a Mk3 fiesta, that seems to go well. i think the problem is probably the Mk5 chassis. they just don't go well in my opinion, i had a zetec turbo in a mk5 cab, straight line it when well but twisty stuff it was minging to drive.

I was doing wishbones in in six months! any power through them and the just spit the bushes out.
RWD forever! :-)
Ian

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2008, 09:15:40 AM »
Quote from: IansSaph
i haven't met many people acutally impressed by the RS2000 in the Mk5+.

The 150horse it puts out is dificult to believe, a local lad had the engine in a Mk3 fiesta, that seems to go well. i think the problem is probably the Mk5 chassis. they just don't go well in my opinion, i had a zetec turbo in a mk5 cab, straight line it when well but twisty stuff it was minging to drive.

I was doing wishbones in in six months! any power through them and the just spit the bushes out.
RWD forever! :-)
Ian
I had a 96 N reg Mk6 1.8 Si as my first new car when I was 22 ( - wanted an RS2K but couldn't afford the insurance seeing as I bought my first house at the same time.)
Never had any issues with the handling - it sat well on the road, was a grin down the lanes and for a 1.8 didn't go bad either. The Mrs had it after that when I got the Cossie Scorp BOA and my sister had it until some twat of a bus driver hit her up the arse at a roundabout.
I'm a firm believer in getting anything around a corner fast so long as you know how to drive. Been with so many drivers who make pitiful basic errors when cornering - braking mid bend, lifting off the gas, changing gear - all those will upset the balance of the car and cause weight to shift forwards.
The Mk 6 chassis was made even better if you fitted the OE strut brace from the cabriolet - the turn in was much crisper. Also found that playing with the tyre pressures and having decent Continental Sport Contact tyres paid dividends.
Just my tuppence worth...

Si.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2008, 09:16:19 AM by Simon 3 door »

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2008, 21:26:59 PM »
Fair points and all agreed... however....  

the Si GTi etc only have 115 bhp, mypoint was it the Mk5+ suspension doesn't like much more power, my cab was running 200+ and was always shafting arms.

Ian

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2008, 21:46:48 PM »
The RS 1800i feista was a better car unless it was a 4*4 Escort which was better at cornering.  Even though it had twenty horses less it to lacked power below 3500rpm but stayed strong to 6500 and would hit 7200 ie of clock.  I drove mine hard for a few years.  when I sold it, it needed two new tyres and front disc so pads to. as the disc had warped. (original from new discs 60k).  I only did oil and filter change/new battery time i had it. o and door lock jammed so had to be stripped and re-built. had to drive from silverstone to basildon with the door ajar tied to hand grip with rope.

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2008, 23:22:23 PM »
mk5 escorts and mk3 fiestas always seem to do lower wishbones. Dont know if those polybushed lightened ones are much cop for the price?!? Done 3 sets now on my xr2i in the last 2years......granted the roads here and the coilovers probably dont help. Mines a 105 zetec with 2.0l mondeo cams+TB and 130 cabbie Maf, ecu+chip. Goes like a rocket! Do oil change every 3k, just clocked 106k still going strong only problem is the tin worm showing in places. Needs both outer CV`s doing when I get the time      

Bas saph had exactly the same problem with the drivers door on mine.......had to tie the door up with the seatbelt until I got home!

Always liked the rs2k though, only model of the mk5/6`s that I`d fancy owning.


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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 11:58:12 AM »
thank you, wishbones don't like power over 115bhp. i never tried the polybushed ones...


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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 12:10:04 PM »
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thank you, wishbones don't like power over 115bhp. i never tried the polybushed ones...
What about V6 Mondy's though? The lower arms on mine lasted 76,000 miles - cheap pattern ones are the ones that shag out in 6 months.

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 15:33:56 PM »
RWD is great ain't it

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 15:50:58 PM »
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RWD is great ain't it
4wd with 64:36 rear bias is grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr8 lol not that I'm biased myself      

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2008, 21:56:59 PM »
i never had much trouble with my mondeos arms,

you can't been genuine ford for parts though can you.

Ian

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2008, 23:06:40 PM »
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i never had much trouble with my mondeos arms,

you can't been genuine ford for parts though can you.

Ian
Watch out for certain Ebay "shops" claiming to sell genuine gear (one in Guernsey and another in Norfolk I believe) - both are known to have slipped the odd Turkish / Eastern European fake part in with the genuine stuff - I know someone who has bought fake stuff from both after the sellers claimed it was genuine.  

 

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