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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2013, 14:57:30 PM »
It's nicer than a Sierra Cosworth, more HP than a Cosworth, is more practical than a cosworth, have the same durability as a cosworth, is built with genuine parts and cost lesser than a equal Cosworth. Isn't it strange that people think the price is way to high? Don't know what you can but a mint cosworth or TT V6 over there but in Sweden they are not lesser than £10000...

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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2013, 15:32:05 PM »
You can get an mk1 cossie for £10000 overhere, about 15k in euros i think, regular cossie sedans go from anywhere from 7500 till 10000 euros, but ive seen mint ones go for 5500 euros, the dutch arent willing to pay much for anything :wacko:

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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2013, 19:21:16 PM »
the dutch arent willing to pay much for anything :wacko:

And you forgot to mention that they want top money for there stuff.

Thats why i hardly do any advertising on dutch sites and buy most of my car related parts outsite of the netherlands.

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It's nicer than a Sierra Cosworth, more HP than a Cosworth, is more practical than a cosworth, have the same durability as a cosworth, is built with genuine parts and cost lesser than a equal Cosworth. Isn't it strange that people think the price is way to high?

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It's very smart, just not sure it's worth that amount.............

If you consider that genuine Minkers sell for less than 1/2 that asking price it just seems a little high!

It may not being build by Minker, its still got all the minker engine parts and a lot more than extras, that a minker doenst have. Like i said before, if you would build a exact copy of that car, it would cost a lot more money, that is what most people dont see or understand. Its almost like i see some dutch buyer mentality here.

As for Minkerestate, i would change the text of the ad, since its never build by minker. Be honest about the car. If you dont need to sell it, dont sell it, but keep it. The car market, certainly for these kind of cars, is bad.
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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2013, 20:30:55 PM »
Hi paul, your so tru, but, i have done a few very good buys, paid 400 quid for a sapphire cossiebodykit, and it was just perfect, frontbumper, rear, skirts, all the strips and covers. Also, i managed to find me a cossie mk1 bonnet, just across the marsdiep, and for a lot less than ebay prices in the uk. And my last piece of pure luck, found a rs500 poly bumper in belgium, at a dutchman, and i canpickit up... For free!

Scrapped a dozen sierras forthe dirt track, never asked more than 50 euros for parts (engine or box), the
Loose parts just for a few quids, didnt earn much money, but i broke even :wacko:

I dnt have much special parts laying around, so not much for sale, so no problems with that...

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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2013, 09:00:19 AM »
It's nicer than a Sierra Cosworth, more HP than a Cosworth, is more practical than a cosworth, have the same durability as a cosworth, is built with genuine parts and cost lesser than a equal Cosworth. Isn't it strange that people think the price is way to high? Don't know what you can but a mint cosworth or TT V6 over there but in Sweden they are not lesser than £10000...

The big problem is that there is no proof to any of the claims about the engine build even to the point that the well known expert who is claimed to have built it has no record of it.

So in essence one has to assume that it is a standard TT ( or worse ) 225 engine and if it is dyno'd at 288 then the boost has been turned up to get that figure.

Given that you then have to set it agains the known markers.

A very clean TT estate sold for circa £2k in the Autumn. It was a standard car, so if you add a couple of £K for wheels, bodykit and extas then that's only £4K

Minkers don't change hands often, and I think £5K was about the limit so far.


TT's can't be compared with Cosworths as there is a Massive market for the latter and a very select market for the former. That will never change.



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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2013, 23:44:21 PM »
If your serious about selling it Minker Estate you need to redo the listing.

Anybody willing to spend that kind of money on an old Sierra will do their home work & there is so many errors in the listing it will ring alarm bells & scare them off!

What ever you have been told by others appears to be very misleading at best.

Firstly it is not a Minker or a copy of one or an Alan special etc.

Nothing you have said, or any of the pictures shows anything Minker related.

A Minker is not just an engine but a complete car upgrade. Engine, brakes, suspension etc etc.
There was 9 built yes but that's it, the 6 others is total rubbish.

Alan never built a Minker spec car, what he built was two proper Minker spec engines that is all.
One engine was for a guy called Gengis that has since been rebuilt again into a 500hp motor.
The other was for another guy I know & fitted to a Blue car that got smashed up.
Engine is now fitted to this, funny enough on eBay right now, Item 170975806674

That was it, other engines where built that used parts of the Minker engine but not the complete spec as per the TT build folder that Alan did have but has been lost!

Alan can confirm if you call him.

He says he has never seen that car before by the way as I asked him to look at the listing.

What I think is fitted to your car is a basic TT conversion. A TT225 (F73)

A big difference!

TT 2.9 V6 XR4x4 Prices @ 1991. Does not include VAT

TT225                   = Fitted    £3245
TT250 Performance    = Fitted    £6950
TT280 Full House      = Fitted    £8700
Minker 323               = Fitted  £16,000 / New Car £34,500
Minker K1                 = Fitted £ 19,500 / New Car £37,500

Why I say that is because the injectors in your throttle body was only used on the lowest powered kit.

The TT250 & TT280 used completely different injectors as they needed more fuel.

There was a number of Estate TT225's done so again you need to amend that.


It's still a nice car, I like it & as you can tell a few on here do to however that listing will put a lot off!


Alan re-built an XR4x4 & turboed it for someone last year to a high spec (again not Minker before someone says it!)
The build was £15,000 so that just proves there is people out there willing to pay good money for the right Sierra V6!  ;D

It's simple, a car is worth what someone is willing to pay.





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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2013, 14:50:17 PM »
i was going to mention the two door sapphire on ebay, looks nice but too much work for me at the moment. good to know it is a minker engine though.

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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2013, 12:25:54 PM »
Hi guys,

I've spoken to the original owner and have found out the complete story on the build of the car.

Alan Jeffrey did build the engine and i have receipts for this.

I'll try and get all the info and scans etc posted ASAP.

Regards...Minker Estate ;D

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Re: Minker estate ?
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2013, 12:39:47 PM »
Relisted.......
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-TURBO-TECHNICS-CONVERSION-1988-SIERRA-ESTATE-300-HP-AWD-/181080112586

That's better, it had nothing Minker related.

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Whats that then? Didn't see a disscussion about it!

If the receipts are there for the work then fair enough.


Alan said he had not seen the car before but that don't mean he didn't supply the parts that must have been fitted by someone else.
Or maybe he put the engine together but never fitted it or was fitted to something else.

The TT225 fueling/ignition/STD ECU bodge is of major concern & should be replaced straight away by the next owner.
It is at the max it can do & the car would probably gain 50 bhp at the same boost by simply fitting some proper management with a decent map.


i was going to mention the two door sapphire on ebay, looks nice but too much work for me at the moment. good to know it is a minker engine though.

Yeah proper Minker turbo's, you can tell by the adapter fitted to the front compressor's, also it had a proper Minker TT ECU that Alan got made by the same guy that did them for TT.
Runs the same map Gengis did & the engine was built the same time as Gengis's engine.
Dave

 

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