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Well done Gengis
« on: July 30, 2009, 01:18:00 AM »

Gengis with his new twin turbo 12V 2.9 build pulled 460bhp & 460lbs on an amazing 20psi on Tuesday.

This is as far as I know currently the most powerful 2.9 12V in Europe with a dyno sheet.

Yes I know there is some 500bhp+ 4.0L's but we are talking 2.9 here  

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 05:51:42 AM »
Very well done I say, certainly a healthy jump from what was an already impressive output!

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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 07:57:03 AM »
very nice and impresive results.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 17:34:06 PM »
20 is only about 1 and a half bar init so that is amazing. What revs were thos maximums at? ...would LOVE to have heard it. video?

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 00:49:29 AM »

Yeah tis the such low boost which is shocking.

Means in N/A form the engine has gota be making about 190bhp.

Gengis will update his spec when he is ready.
Link is to his old engine.

http://www.xr4register.com/profilesimonstephens.php]http://www.xr4register.com/profilesimonstephens.php

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 12:14:28 PM »
well after seeing it in the flesh at ford fair its a nice build,and congrats to all involved but especialy genghis for having the balls to try it,I looked at the rolling road graph but it looks like it needs a small supercharger with a dis-engage clutch to go with those big turbo's to gain some low and mid range power,but i bet it goes like stink after 4600rpm.but he has proven that the old 12v can make good horsepower at the top end and we both certainly showed up alot of cosworth owners at the ford fair sprints.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2009, 00:42:40 AM »

This is it, it does show the old 12V can make HP.

Kind of re-writes the rule book for it actually.

Simons engine is built for 25psi & 8000rpm.

He has not even pushed it yet to max it out.

Yes turbo's are big but to be able to hit the targets they need to be.

Thing is 400-450bhp was thought to be at 25psi so it's capable of alot more as it hit 460 @ 20psi!
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 00:09:33 AM »
Oh crap just heard a 2.9 12V in Sweden just hit 464bhp & 486lbs on the rollers @ 19psi
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 09:26:59 AM »
They use e85 over there which I think is 104 RON?  Do you know which it was using?

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 09:38:28 AM »
Not a lot in it when you concider the possible variables. Well done to both. Dave, do you happen know what the record is for a single turbo 2.8?

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 19:20:38 PM »
with e85 the guy in sweden has a big advantage. its indeed 104 ron, so he can put the timing earlyer than haggis can on 98. the result is more power.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 22:57:24 PM »
Haggis Paul?????

Catch up  

No it's on normal fuel with a GT40 turbo & mega squirt.

It ran a 11.99 quarter when it was 400bhp I think.

It's a Capri.

Info will leak out soon, I am not saying much, will let you make your own minds up    


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There is a guy in Norway that claimed 460bhp & 700NM for a 2.8.

However engine long since died & never any real proof of them figures.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009, 04:44:57 AM »
That 2.9 engine is a completly stock engine except from ported heads and a different cam. The engine run stock CR. The guy just changes the bottom end when it blows, I think he have wasted 2 of them so far, and now he is looking into how to build something that will last, on a budget ofcourse..... Shame he didn't go for a BOB instead.......

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2009, 09:29:55 AM »
Lowering his compression would help it last a bit longer. The rest could stay as it is then.

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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2009, 10:54:13 AM »
 

This is why I didn't want to talk about his spec as it is basically stock.

I wouldn't want anyone to copy it unless you want to rebuild engines every other week.


But fair play amazing results

464bhp & 486 lbs on 19 psi.

"ended with 406hk and 580nm with 1.3bars boost pressure on the drive wheels.
Or 462hk and 660nm on the engine by 12% driveline loss"


No YB has ever got near that on that boost!
« Last Edit: September 07, 2009, 11:00:38 AM by Dave »
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2009, 11:30:24 AM »
my bad, on what fuel haggis and the swedisch guy run there engines than?

still the figures are impressive for a 2.9 12v
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2009, 11:35:32 AM »

Well he used to claim it was normal everyday 95ron but would have thought he must now run super unleaded at least now
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