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Janspeedcapri

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Alloy T9 bellhousing
« on: August 09, 2008, 18:36:37 PM »
cost 41 quid but now i need a 3 bolt starter - what one fits??



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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 19:05:51 PM »
I take it these are from sierras so will this be o.k? http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&p=24108019]http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&p=24108019  and is it a 2.8 sierra starter i need?

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 19:18:15 PM »
those clutch kits fit, you just need to check if it is for a t9 or a mt 75. the relais bearing is different.

did you tryed if the 2 bold starter fits?

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greetz Paul.

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Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 19:23:44 PM »
no, ebay auction just ended

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2008, 19:40:41 PM »
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no, ebay auction just ended

you could also try a startermotor from a sierra or escort diesel.

greetz paul.
greetz Paul.

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Jari H

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2008, 20:36:37 PM »
You need V6 4wd starter.

Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2008, 20:56:07 PM »
o.k - so these are from 4x4 only?   I'm using it on a rwd capri t9 - it will work right?

Jari H

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2008, 21:38:21 PM »
It will. I have same kind of bellhousing + T9.

Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 22:13:10 PM »
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It will. I have same kind of bellhousing + T9.
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Paul - i reckon that clutch should be fine cos they quote all model years...so must cover t9?

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2008, 22:19:37 PM »
I went through all of this earlier this year when I fiited one, got a recon starter off ebay for about £25. hope you've got the sandwhich plate too cos the one for the iron bellhousing won't fit !
I made mine from a sheet of 1.2mm aluminium

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2008, 23:41:23 PM »
When I broke my first gearbox I swapped it for one on a spares 24v Saff. It had the same ally bellhousing as yours. Had to use the starter too off the spares car too and remove the sandwich plate altogether to get it to fit (there wasn't one on the spares car    ) Didn't realise they were worth anything lol Got the bellhousing, starter and now a stone plate from a mate, won't be using them either now as I've going MT box.  

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 07:30:21 AM »
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good  
Paul - i reckon that clutch should be fine cos they quote all model years...so must cover t9?

if you use a t9, you need the relais bearing from a t9. the relais bearing is the only difference between the t9 and mt75 clutch kit.

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You need V6 4wd starter.

i could not remember last night, whitch v6 used a 3 bold starter.

greetz paul.

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greetz Paul.

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Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 09:41:34 AM »
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starter and now a stone plate from a mate, won't be using them either now as I've going MT box.  
might you be sellin them then???    ive got to get the gearbox out to swap sumps i may as well do this bellhousing and clutch swap at the same time. btw - i looked up ford starters and most are 3 bolt tbh - including mondeo, escorts and transits - one motor was listed as fitting dozens of different models - just not V6. the v6 ones have an extra tooth.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 13:40:42 PM »
I've already promised someone the bellhousing matey, and I think as it seems to be hard to get all the bits together I'd like to keep them all as a package for him  

Out of interest how much weight do you think you'll save over a cast bellhousing?

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2008, 13:58:35 PM »
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I've already promised someone the bellhousing matey, and I think as it seems to be hard to get all the bits together I'd like to keep them all as a package for him  

Out of interest how much weight do you think you'll save over a cast bellhousing?
the starters are commonly available new without exchange for £30 so its only the plate i'm intrested in tbh to save me a couple of hours making one but no worries.   As for weight saving,  I would imagine that the weight difference is conciderable as the bellhousing is a big bit of the gearbox and the tail housing is already alloy. Its not something that would likeley make a huge difference on its own but ive gone to more trouble and expense losing less weight with my GRP panels. What wiv moving the battery to the boot, it should all help.

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 14:08:38 PM »
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the starters are commonly available new without exchange for £30 so its only the plate i'm intrested in tbh to save me a couple of hours making one but no worries.   As for weight saving,  I would imagine that the weight difference is conciderable as the bellhousing is a big bit of the gearbox and the tail housing is already alloy. Its not something that would likeley make a huge difference on its own but ive gone to more trouble and expense losing less weight with my GRP panels. What wiv moving the battery to the boot, it should all help.


Yeah every kilo counts    Especially when you consider the huge weight of a 24v lump, any weight you can lose from the front end is real good news for weight distribution and overall weight in general, and as you've said its quite a cheap easy way to do it rather than changing everything to fibre glass and fitting / buying / painting new wings, bonnets etc. When I get a chance i'll weigh the 2 bellhousings to se exactly what the diffrence is.

Would let you have the stone plate but as  said I already promised the bellhousing etc too some one and I don't want to brake my word  

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2008, 14:55:41 PM »
yeah the Grp panels are far from perfect - they fit and look straight enough but will require lots of high build and smoothing before paint. They also cost me a fair bit - bonnet, wings, front panel and tailgate have cost me about 600 quid so hope it makes a difference when i hit the weighbridge. I reckon i may have dropped 100kg total with all ive done so i hope to be scraping 900 kg or just over. I haven't made the move to 24v - decided a single turbo on my 2.8 will suffice. I did look into a few 24v motors for the engines but none worth having so its 12v for me. I'm gonna set up for low boost initialy - for about 200bhp and think about a full on rebuild with low comp forged pistons, h beam rods, tuftriding and balancing next year, then i'll up the boost for about 300bhp. At that point i will rebuild the LSD, fit rear discs and new front springs and inserts. Just want to concentrate on getting the thing painted and running withthe interior all in for now.

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2008, 22:17:22 PM »
you can get 2 types of ally bellhousing - the type above is the better one and the earlyer one doesnt have the cut out for the extra front bearing that some boxes have  
just thought you might want to know  

i think the difference is 7KG (ally and cast) i weighed them both when i fitted on on my escort but it was a few years ago and i have a bad memory
« Last Edit: August 10, 2008, 22:18:14 PM by Transit RS »

Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2008, 22:59:30 PM »
Cheers transit,  I'm glad to hear i got the better one and very pleased with a 7kg weight loss  

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2008, 23:14:40 PM »
@ Janspeedcapri....  Sounds like great project mate  

@ TransitRS.... WOW 7kgs! thats a good weight saving!  

Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 09:10:23 AM »
to put this in perspective...its the weight of carrying this large fish around wiv ya  

Transit RS

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 18:12:45 PM »
hmmm mabe it was 1.7kg   memorys not what it used to be

Janspeedcapri

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 18:24:03 PM »
7kg sounds more likely - ally is 40% lighter than iron or steel. I will confirm this all when i get mine and weigh them - bathroom scales should do it.

IansSaph

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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2008, 11:24:05 AM »
i am amused at your 7kg comparables.... enough said....

Doughnutter

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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2008, 15:17:14 PM »
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i am amused at your 7kg comparables.... enough said....


Has any one spotted the deliberate mistake yet though?  



Gas bottle is a 7kg fill not the total weight  

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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2008, 15:24:29 PM »
always one aint there
     

and it should be 'deliberate' as i doubt it was,



 

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