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Janspeedcapri

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« on: July 17, 2008, 19:18:53 PM »
Called up about a paint job on the capri....

"stripped bare metal capri shell, 2k etch, primer and solid colour supplied" I said


"HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND?" he says. (like hes doing me a favour)

 

I know all about people who ask that question cos i used to work for plumbers  
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 19:57:03 PM »
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Called up about a paint job on the capri....

"stripped bare metal capri shell, 2k etch, primer and solid colour supplied" I said
"HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND?" he says. (like hes doing me a favour)

 

I know all about people who ask that question cos i used to work for plumbers    - avoid him if you don't want your trousers pulled down.

:lol:

thought you meant a different type of escort agency!

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 22:23:29 PM »
It's a very quick way of finding out if the potential customer is a dreamer or has some means to pay.  I don't know him but maybe he gets a lot of talkers each day.

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2008, 00:12:37 AM »
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It's a very quick way of finding out if the potential customer is a dreamer or has some means to pay.  

Its very quick way of finding out how much you charge someone for a job you claim to do day in day out.
Its also a very quick way of losing business.



Its was a fairly straight forward inquirey - for a bare metal 6 coat 2k paintjob on a bare shell inside out -  i didn't ask him his life story    He could of given me a guide price just as easily as asking me that question.

If that knob had said "oh about 2000 more or less" I would of booked the car in. If he'd said more I would of told him he was taking the piss - end of conversation.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2008, 07:13:21 AM »
You phoned up, how to you expect anyone to give you a price over the phone without seeing the car?

Have to agree with Mikey, theres a lot of dreamers about.

I get loads of calls asking can you give me a price and then when you work it out you never hear from them again, cheap skates,  phoning round for the cheapest price, well cheap aint always as cheap as you think.

So yes, you will get well how much you got to spend, speaking to you on the phone is costing them money, its a quick and easy way to find out if your a time waster or not
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2008, 12:09:09 PM »
Yep to be fair, i worked in bodyshops for 7years and there's nowt worse that a bloke saying "how much to?" on the phone, You're lucky he didn't say "how long is my shoe lace?" or "10k!"

For a proper estimate you need to trailer it down to him or blag him into coming to see it,

You should pick a bodyshop on the quality of its work, the price is a side effect.

Sorry mate.

Ian

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2008, 12:24:18 PM »
[quote name='Taps' date='Jul 18 2008, 07:13 AM' post='36905']
You phoned up, how to you expect anyone to give you a price over the phone without seeing the car?
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other places did    quickest call was to a place in Chesham... "Resprays here start a £10,000 sir"  


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cheap skates,  phoning round for the cheapest price quote]
I only called a few, good places - Why wouldn't i take the best price if they are all quality  reputable places? I wouldn't compare his quote to a a blokes who does them on his drive.


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speaking to you on the phone is costing them money


My cars on stands, stripped - the alternative is for them to invest a lot more time in actualy coming to look at it.




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a quick and easy way to find out if your a time waster

I'm not a timewaster taps - he wasted my time and money on the price of the call by basicaly refuseing to discuss it unless I said a number he liked. What should i have said to that question?

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2008, 12:54:13 PM »
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:lol:

thought you meant a different type of escort agency!

Glad it wasn't only me that thought that  

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2008, 15:17:27 PM »
Sometimes when I get a customer rather then go through all the possible costing options I ask the what sort of a figure they want to work within.  This way, my bill never goes over that amount and it could be less. It saves me wasting a lot of time and it also 'vets' potential customers very quickly.  It seems to work quite well.

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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2008, 18:42:49 PM »
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I'm not a timewaster taps - he wasted my time and money on the price of the call by basicaly refuseing to discuss it unless I said a number he liked. What should i have said to that question?

I'm not saying you are, but you will be treated as such because of those that are and theres plenty of them about, you'd have got the same responce off me to be honest, or you would have been told sorry cant price that over the phone.

You might well have thought when he asked, hello, his after all he can get or more, when/if you look at it from his side if you had answered £1000 he would have known straight away you couldnt afford it and said so.

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2008, 06:42:12 AM »
I can see both sides - as a business person he must get loads of calls, alot from timewasting oiks who want to spend £3 on a bareshell repsray.....Martin's work is exceptional to say the least, it saves him time (and money, on BOTH sides) to quickly weed out the genuine enquiries from the timewasting ones.....
I remember when I wanted some rust work sorted by TAPS a few years back on my white XR4i, and quite rightly he said he would have to see the car before any idea on price, even though I was pushing/eager for a price before then   However he was genuine and true to his word and gave me a rough price once he had seen it....
But you want a simple quick straught answer....and unforunately, he doesn't know, over the phone, if u r genuine or another timewaster before you have a decent chat....
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2008, 10:11:33 AM »
I agree, it may have sounded ruder than he meant it to, but its very rare to get any soprt of price over the phone from anyone who knows what they are doing because they will know how quickly costs can escalate if they find somethingh wrong with your car, and they wont want to be tied down to a price.

Find someone you trust and who comes reccomended and then just book it in and hope its worth the money it comes to is my advice, tis a chancey business unfortunately.

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2008, 21:21:22 PM »
Tiff and popup - I agree that he couldn't of been exspected to give a price without seeing the car - a guide price maybe, but certainly nothing he could be commited/tied to - I agee. I was trying to do exactly what you  guys say he was - trying to see if it would be WORTH wasting either of our time pursuing a proper quote by discussing it for a minute or 2. He wasn't prepared to - HE DEMANDED I QUOTE HIM A FIGURE i would pay!!! Thats even more ridiculus than me asking for any kind of price from him seeing hes the one to name it??! I have NO CLUE what he charges SO what should i tell him? The some total of my savings? I think not.
I see I'm totaly unique here in my approach to business - and thats what it is lets al remeber...I respect the guy, but I'm not so in awe of his reputation that I'm going to sign a cheque for him to fill in if thats what hes looking for.

Anyway, after screwing my back up yesterday catching the bonnet release cable in the grinder, I accepted a quote of £1800 to finish the lot , local place, proper booth, good reputation -  came round and looked at it. Ive been an looked at their place and its sorted.


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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 21:31:06 PM »
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I agee. I was trying to do exactly what you  guys say he was - trying to see if it would be WORTH wasting either of our time pursuing a proper quote by discussing it for a minute or 2. He wasn't prepared to - HE DEMANDED I QUOTE HIM A FIGURE i would pay!!! Thats even more ridiculus than me asking for any kind of price from him seeing hes the one to name it??! I have NO CLUE what he charges SO what should i tell him? The some total of my savings? I think not.


If he done that m8 you should have demanded he quote ya first  

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 12:38:01 PM »
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I accepted a quote of £1800 to finish the lot , local place, proper booth, good reputation - came round and looked at it. Ive been an looked at their place and its sorted.

So mate. on the plus side the old girl.. (i assume the capri is a lady?) will be on 'her' way to paint and then the road?

Time scale?

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2008, 15:20:27 PM »
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So mate. on the plus side the old girl.. (i assume the capri is a lady?) will be on 'her' way to paint and then the road?

Time scale?

once she back and i have put everything on and got the turbo installed and setup nice, it will be september i'm sure    but thats o.k

 

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