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Offline Heiki

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Rear tires are smoking
« on: June 27, 2008, 12:13:27 PM »
Every time I hit the trottle hard my rear tires starts to scream and smoke are coming out of them  
I tried changing the tire brand but with the same result.. Still screaming and smoking  
Then I tried narrow tires, cause one rally guy I know said that was the way to go, but believe it or not, those tires smoked even more...
What can cause this?  
Have anyone else had this problem?

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 13:23:48 PM »
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Every time I hit the trottle hard my rear tires starts to scream and smoke are coming out of them  

Nice    


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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 13:53:02 PM »
yes i seem to be having this problem as well, there is a strange noise and blue smoke and the rear of the car seems to weave from side to side in first and second gear.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 14:10:00 PM »
Cure, take the lead out you Shoe/boot  

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 14:22:13 PM »
Solution: 4x4 transmission  

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 15:18:57 PM »
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Cure, take the lead out you Shoe/boot  

lead boots in no way required to cause it  




Quote from: littlegems4x4
Solution: 4x4 transmission  

Ive had 4x4's, this is looooads more fun.  

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 17:01:04 PM »
Quote from: heaamodt
Every time I hit the trottle hard my rear tires starts to scream and smoke are coming out of them  
I tried changing the tire brand but with the same result.. Still screaming and smoking  
Then I tried narrow tires, cause one rally guy I know said that was the way to go, but believe it or not, those tires smoked even more...
What can cause this?  
Have anyone else had this problem?

Heiki

   Try wider tyres, its harder to smoke them up  

Reminds me of an event at Santa Pod

"Lex we can see smoke!!"

Lex thinking to himself, yeah course you can see smoke, i'm drifting.....

"Lex your cars on fire!!!"

Suddenly the penny dropped  

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 21:04:38 PM »
I used to have this problem with a few of my previous cars, so much so that I decided to park them up and call them "projects".

I now have found the only solution,


Drive your girlfriends/wives 1.2 Fiat Stilo.  No matter how hard I try, I cant make the rear wheels scream

SORTED


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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2008, 07:23:55 AM »
i have a simular problem whit the capri v8, if i stab the trottle, there is alote off smoke and noise.

and i have to find a solution for that, because next week, we have a smoking ban here in the netherlands. (the person whitch can up whit that idea, should get shoot  )

i also have a other problem, every time i stab the trottle, you can see the needle off the fuel gauge drop. i think i have a fuel leak, but i can't seem to find any leaks.  

greetz paul.

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greetz Paul.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2008, 08:23:25 AM »
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I used to have this problem with a few of my previous cars, so much so that I decided to park them up and call them "projects".

I now have found the only solution,


Drive your girlfriends/wives 1.2 Fiat Stilo. No matter how hard I try, I cant make the rear wheels scream

SORTED


Mik

Absolute quality. Although my wife drives an MR2 GT and she has the same problem....

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2008, 08:39:01 AM »
i tryed Mik advice and grabed my girls friend fiesta this morning.

no more smoke from the rear tyres.  



now the front tyres smoke.  

greetz paul.

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« Last Edit: June 28, 2008, 08:39:59 AM by capri v8 driver »
greetz Paul.

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 10:36:04 AM »
Thanks for lots of great advices
I wen`t for Mik`s advice to and grabbed the wifes volvo V70, now this car used to belong to a plumber, and apparently this guy forgot lots of his pipes and stuff in the engine compartment of the car. Must have been stupid or something...  
Anyway, started of in first gear and had the same problem as Paul here... smoke were comming from the front wheels of this car.. Desided to go for second and the strangest thing happened... the engine made a sound that most of all reminded me of a angry snake  -I wonder what that was all about...
Second gear and the tire problem got worse and now I had problems with the steeringwheel to, tried to keep the car in a straight line but I was struggling with volvo all over the road.. I bet it is the bolt and nut that connects the steeringwheel to the tires that has to be tightened.

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2008, 19:48:55 PM »
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Anyway, started of in first gear and had the same problem as Paul here... smoke were comming from the front wheels of this car.. Desided to go for second and the strangest thing happened... the engine made a sound that most of all reminded me of a angry snake  -I wonder what that was all about...
Second gear and the tire problem got worse and now I had problems with the steeringwheel to, tried to keep the car in a straight line but I was struggling with volvo all over the road.

hmmm, i am not alone whit that problem.

to combat the problem whit smoking front wheels (and a angry girl friend), i whent back to my capri.

to combat the angry girl friend, i will take her out to night.......

the only downside for her tonight, she has to drive home.  

greetz paul.

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greetz Paul.

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2008, 23:39:52 PM »
You could always do what I did and get yourself a new baby son  

The MPG on my XR4x4 has almost doubled in the last 2 weeks since he was born.  



 

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2008, 00:12:40 AM »
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You could always do what I did and get yourself a new baby son  

The MPG on my XR4x4 has almost doubled in the last 2 weeks since he was born.  
 
Now would be to soon... Got a 2 months old boy and a girl at 2 years+

Funny story about my girl, she was 14 months at the time and my wheels had just arrived from Boyd Coddington. I was sitting out on the deck polishing one wheel when she pulled one of her socks of and started polishing one of the other wheels.. Believe it or not, -I got video to show for it  
Daddy`s little girl or daddy`s little girl...   -She made her "old" man proud..

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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2008, 09:48:24 AM »
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I bet it is the bolt and nut that connects the steeringwheel to the tires that has to be tightened.

Mate, i would love to take this all seriously but i can't help but think its all a wind up lol

I will suspend my disbeleif....

1. Narrow tyres help the car track through deep snow or mud - thats why rally cars use them on those types of courses - FOR TARMAC you need wider tyres.

2. I own a V70 (well the wifes) so I know for a fact they don't wheelspin and smoke the tyres from tickover/standstill. Mine is a 2.5 20v turbo (210bhp) and the closest i come to what you describe in dry conditions is a tiny bit of slippage if i launch it stearing left or right out of a t junction.

3. There is no bolt or nut connecting anyones tyres to their steering wheel - ever. Trust me on that.

Are you sure the screamings not from a slipping belt...and the smoke from the exhaust (or whatever the hell youve been smoking lol) ???? as ridiculus as it sounds, i would find that a whole lot more plausable.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 09:50:16 AM by Janspeedcapri »

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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2008, 11:55:32 AM »
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Mate, i would love to take this all seriously but i can't help but think its all a wind up lol

I will suspend my disbeleif....

2. I own a V70 (well the wifes) so I know for a fact they don't wheelspin and smoke the tyres from tickover/standstill. Mine is a 2.5 20v turbo (210bhp) and the closest i come to what you describe in dry conditions is a tiny bit of slippage if i launch it stearing left or right out of a t junction.

maybe you have to turn the traction control off?

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or whatever the hell youve been smoking lol????

thanks to the smoking ban, we are allowed to smoke pure canabis and to use coke and other drugs in the pub's, but we are not allowed to smoke a normal sigaret in the pub.

so if i start to use strange langauge, as off july 1, you know what happend.

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You could always do what I did and get yourself a new baby son


we are practicing on that, and if its up to me, it will be only be practicing.

no kids for me, i don't think i can handle that. to much stress at this moment. why do you think i go to the pub so much?

greetz paul.

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« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 11:58:12 AM by capri v8 driver »
greetz Paul.

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2008, 13:48:28 PM »
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Mate, i would love to take this all seriously but i can't help but think its all a wind up lol

I will suspend my disbeleif....

I have to admit to pulling you`r leg here...  

Now down to the serious hardcore tech-talk.

We all know that the supercharged engines need the intake bypass valve so they work in reverse. Otherwise the supercharger would just suck all the air out of the cylinder. So knowing that, how does the turbocharged version work in reverse? The engine is trying to suck air backwards, yet the turbo wants to spin forward so I don't see how it works. Is there some sort of exhausting intake bypass valve on the turbo version? Also, if it does have the valve, does that also mean that it can make boost in reverse? Like how much boost? Like 5 psi or does it go over 20?

Can anyone help me sort this out?

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2008, 14:39:28 PM »
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thanks to the smoking ban, we are allowed to smoke pure canabis and to use coke and other drugs in the pub's, but we are not allowed to smoke a normal sigaret in the pub.

so if i start to use strange langauge, as off july 1, you know what happend.


this is sadly no BS  

so if you want to smoke pure canabis, or use any other drug in the pub, thats still allowed in the pub's in the netherlands. but dont light up a sigaret or a sigar. the pub owner gets a fine for that, starting at 300 euro, and dubbels every time someone gets caught smoking a sigaret or a sigar, whit a max to 2400 euro.

a few small pubs, her in my town, are already closed or close at the 1e off july, and alote off other pubs are up for sale. and the rest off the pub owners are afraid.

but you right heemodt, this topic should be moved to the general discusion.

and start a new topic for the supercharger.

as for the supercharger, it turn the same direction as the crank, i was not aware the supercharger has a reverse?? its the same for a turbo. i never seen a reverse on the turbo?

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greetz Paul.

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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2008, 15:16:15 PM »
I suspect the o/p is testing our technical prowess    I have come across this kind of thing before...he/she will probably tell us what he realy wants to know eventualy once convinced we ain't eejits lol  - a good tactic for avoiding bs  


Paul, TC on the V70 doesn't work too well...if i realy make an effort (select neutal, floor loud pedal, select drive) IT WILL spin at least enough to leave rubber on the road and draw disapproving stares from pedestrians. If you take TC off it will make slightly more fuss and noise but we are NOT talking about  stationary burnout! ITs certainly not prone to exstent that it would happen without intent/provocation.

As i said, its the "do you guys know what your talking about?" routine - the real question is yet to come...probs something seriously techy where bad advice could cost £££.

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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2008, 19:10:39 PM »
i don't own a volvo v70, so i can not tell you how they drive, but i gues whit 210 hp, you would be able to put some rubber on the street.

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As i said, its the "do you guys know what your talking about?" routine - the real question is yet to come...probs something seriously techy where bad advice could cost £££.

normaly i try to give the best advice as i can. and there could be a remark thats not completly correct. i am only human, but i do the best i can to give a decent answer. if i don't give a correct answer, other people will correct me, hopefully.

except in this topic.

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greetz Paul.

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2008, 19:35:52 PM »
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i don't own a volvo v70, so i can not tell you how they drive,

I never asked you Paul - I was telling you, as i do own a V70  


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but i gues whit 210 hp, you would be able to put some rubber on the street.

Paul - I can tell you for a fact thaty I can put rubber on the road with any car you care to mention - by purposely inducing wheelspin. The o/p described something very different - smoking/screaming tyres everytime he hits the pedal with enthusiasm - thats not a Volvo characteristic - ask at your local dealer
As you pointed out - the car has TC. As I said, its not perfect but you won't be doing burnouts by accident.

The advice you give is excellent, from what ive seen - although it sometimes seems the old language barrier causes confusion.

What a crazy bullshit thread anyway  



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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2008, 08:19:57 AM »
it is a bs threat, thats why it should be moved to the general discusion.

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greetz Paul.

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2008, 16:44:24 PM »
Is it just me or is this thread getting a little weird??????????



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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2008, 18:27:06 PM »
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Is it just me or is this thread getting a little weird??????????
Mik.

yep its getting weird, its now getting weird in a totally different section as well      

Talking of weird I'm still here a work reading this , think I'd better get home
« Last Edit: June 30, 2008, 18:29:06 PM by Taps »

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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2008, 19:14:47 PM »
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Talking of weird I'm still here a work reading this

that tells you how weird this is  

thanks for putting it in the right topic.

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2008, 21:12:56 PM »
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thanks to the smoking ban, we are allowed to smoke pure canabis and to use coke and other drugs in the pub's, but we are not allowed to smoke a normal sigaret in the pub.

so if i start to use strange langauge, as off july 1, you know what happend.

We got this stuff over here: [attachmentid=2346] better then smoking. But still it is bad for the health.......  Belive it or not, but one of the major issues for the Swedes when we was joining the union was to keep this product.... Sweden is the only place in the union where it is allowed to be sold in.....
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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2008, 21:41:30 PM »
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We got this stuff over here: [attachmentid=2346]  Sweden is the only place in the union where it is allowed to be sold in.....

nah, we have shoe polish here too  

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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2008, 21:44:50 PM »
The "supercharged engines need the intake bypass valve" funny bullshit question is actually something I stumbled across in an american cobalt forum when searcing for someting quite different.
The story are worth reading and you`ll find it here:

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118899]http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118899

Now this being a b.s thread, I thought it would fit in..  

But I did find what I was searcing for..
An Turbo/Engine flow calculator, follow this link and you will find it with a set up for the 24V
running at 8 psi boost with an afr at 12.5 etc.
It will calculate an ESTIMATED injector size, hp, torque and more.
It will show you what turbo might work and what won`t work.

http://www.motorgeek.com/index.php?page=6&FeetASL=1000&Tamb=21&Bore=93&Stroke=72&nCyl=6&RPM=7000&VE=85&Boost=8&Ec=70&Eic=70&PdropIC=0.5&TambIC=21&wiPercentMethanol=0&wiRate=100&wiTemp=21&SFC=0.49&AFR=12.5&maxInjectorDutyCycle=85]http://www.motorgeek.com/index.php?page=6&...torDutyCycle=85


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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2008, 22:02:53 PM »
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The story are worth reading and you`ll find it here:

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118899]http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118899

Now this being a b.s thread, I thought it would fit in..  

mate, that thread is not worth reading at all - just an eejit with a ludicrous question getting ripped by other forum members - we have that right here mate...now  



 

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