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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 12:50:08 PM »
I must admit that looks horrid

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 16:06:00 PM »
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I must admit that looks horrid

And being Focus based, it's going to be front wheel drive......    Why not take a cue from Ford US who redesigned the Mustang and come out with a modern looking version of the original.

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 19:17:27 PM »
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And being Focus based, it's going to be front wheel drive......    Why not take a cue from Ford US who redesigned the Mustang and come out with a modern looking version of the original.

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where are the puke smiles?????

Ford, this is not what a real capri enthusiast want's. it does not even come close to a real capri!!!! Ford, the first thing you should do is take the designer's, witch "designed" this piece off crapp, and give them a shot in head. after that the people witch approved this rubbish, shot them to, and than start over, and start to design and build a real RWD sports car.

is it really that difficult to build a proper capri whit RWD and a decent engine???? where is that sporting heritage, you are so proud off??? i can tell you, its gone, long gone. its only to people like us, RWD and old skool fanatics, that a bid off that heritage is still there.

capri, they car you always promised yourself..... whit this piece off scrap, i rather buy a bmw.

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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 22:11:43 PM »
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where are the puke smiles?????

Ford, this is not what a real capri enthusiast want's. it does not even come close to a real capri!!!! Ford, the first thing you should do is take the designer's, witch "designed" this piece off crapp, and give them a shot in head. after that the people witch approved this rubbish, shot them to, and than start over, and start to design and build a real RWD sports car.

is it really that difficult to build a proper capri whit RWD and a decent engine???? where is that sporting heritage, you are so proud off??? i can tell you, its gone, long gone. its only to people like us, RWD and old skool fanatics, that a bid off that heritage is still there.

capri, they car you always promised yourself..... whit this piece off scrap, i rather buy a bmw.

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Paul what you didn't realise is that nowadays, low volume or niche cars don't exist unless there is a platform used in that market which makes the project affordable. If the costs (platform, powertrain and top-hat or body shape) cannot be re-couped (pardon the pun) and make profit then the business equation does not stack up. It just so happens that all Ford Europe platforms are front wheel drive (or all wheel drive based on front wheel drive). Platform consolidation mate - its the name of the game. If it hadn't been for Cortina, Corsair and Escort parts, the Capri would never have existed at all.

So you're saying if Ford of Europe brought back a RWD solid axle car with leaf springs that the motoring public would welcome it with open arms? Maybe a few people might but look how the Mustang was reviewed in the UK - the handling was criticised due to the ancient suspension design. It's OK for the USA where there aren't really any corners. I have driven a Shelby GT500 - the one Hammond had on Top Gear. Fantastic car - oodles of power, leaves 2 black tyre marks behind every time you pull away, and lots of sideways fun if you want, but most people could not use that kind of car on the road and to be fair unless you power slide around corners it's a bit awkward in the bends.

 

If the new Capri concept were rear wheel drive, it would never become a possibility. It would either cost too much people would not buy it, or be sold at a loss to make it affordable - in these tough times in the auto industry that ain't gonna happen! Don't forget though - the C1 platform is AWD capable (Volvo and Ford both use this in AWD already) and a RWD bias AWD is still possible using a centre diff or clever electronics with the traction control.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 22:34:37 PM »
THAT IS PANTS!!!!!!
how can the capri be reborn like that - the capri was exciting and had a real personality
it was different
and now they make it like A POXY FOCUS in a PARTY DRESS!!!!
the legend lives - it should be left that way
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ps SI - richard hammond - you are a name dropper arent you - cant help but notice you dont go on about the fact your new racing seat for the track slag are simply cast offs from the Stephen Hawkins racing chair

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 22:42:13 PM »
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THAT IS PANTS!!!!!!
how can the capri be reborn like that - the capri was exciting and had a real personality
it was different
and now they make it like A POXY FOCUS in a PARTY DRESS!!!!
the legend lives - it should be left that way
( rant over )

ps SI - richard hammond - you are a name dropper arent you - cant help but notice you dont go on about the fact your new racing seat for the track slag are simply cast offs from the Stephen Hawkins racing chair

    yes they are Cobra Hawkins specials with 5 point harness slots and detachable wheels. I noticed the harness slot (or was it a gaping great hole?   ) in the side bolster of your Recaro.

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2008, 22:45:01 PM »
Yeah love it -it saves me having to rip them

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2008, 22:47:10 PM »
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Yeah love it -it saves me having to rip them
Speaking of ripping you missed Steve having the arse ripped out of him by Danny the tyre - was on about "repairing the roof of his caravan lugger" and Danny said "yer but gaffer tape dont fuckin count". Steve bit LOL but then wouldn't shut the fook up.

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 01:10:46 AM »
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I agree whole heartedly that lots of power and RWD is... fun but 99.9% of car buyers don't drive their new 30,000 Euro car sideways with the tyres smoking - or if they do they end up with an ASBO.  

If the new Capri concept were rear wheel drive, it would never become a possibility. It would either cost too much people would not buy it, or be sold at a loss to make it affordable - in these tough times in the auto industry that ain't gonna happen! Don't forget though - the C1 platform is AWD capable (Volvo and Ford both use this in AWD already) and a RWD bias AWD is still possible using a centre diff or clever electronics with the traction control.


What's an ASBO

I agree, that you don't want a live axle, but a capri has to be rear wheel drive....or maybe 4x4, biased correctly it would be fine...  Something like 36/44 F/R  sounds like a great combo...    

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 08:47:01 AM »
hello Simon.

i never said the capri should have a solid axle car with leaf springs, what i did say is that a capri should be RDW.

Ford can always use the platfrom and the supension from a jag, they are RWD. whit this, you could use almost every v6,v8,v10 and v12 Ford ever designed. so building a capri whit RDW should not be a problem. if Ford wants t build a cheap RWD car, they can use the platform off a mazda mx 5 or even beter, the rx 8.

as for your statement that no one would buy it, did you looked at bmw lately? at the 1 and 3 serie's? they outsell the mondeo at this moment on the lease marked. i have driven the 1 serie's whit the 6 cilinder and RDW, and in term off driving it, i loved it. there is no european ford at this moment that can match it in the fun department.

now Ford has the chance to build a real driver's car, make it RWD, give it power, and it will sell.

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 10:55:13 AM »
[quote name='Chris' date='May 7 2008, 01:10 AM' post='33168']
What's an ASBO

Anti Social Behaviour Order, scallys use them for 'bonus points amongst peers'



It was always going to be a disapointment as everything mass produced is these days, if they made a decent car the Greens / environmentalists would rip them to pieces, half the public wouldn't want it and the half that did want it either couldn't afford it or wouldn't buy it for fear of abuse from those that disagree with its production.

Everything is to please the mass'es. Instead of doing whats possible they always do whats probable..

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2008, 11:24:23 AM »
the Greens / environmentalists are only happy when there are no cars anymore. even the electric car's are poluting the air, remember, these cars need power to recharge, witch is generated by a power plant, most still use cole as a fuel source. and it still takes oil, to make the plastic and rubber parts for these cars. and the material's used for the battery's aren't that "green" either.

and why would the Greens / environmentalists ripe them to piece's? RWD or FWD, it does not matter if you build a car. as long is it "green" they don't care.

but we are talking about the new capri, not the Greens / environmentalists.

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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2008, 15:26:29 PM »
I've looked at it a few times now and like the new 'deo and the new focus it has and will continue to grow on me, if they proceed with the plans for the RS version, powered by a 3.2-litre six-cylinder motor and offering four-wheel drive. Then it will be a nice machine. Retro remakes always cause a stir, if they had called it the new Cougar or something new entirly i believe your reactions to it would of been different.

I doubt the hard core Mk1 Golf boys get p@ssed off a new model is introduced, it is just engineering evolution and what suits the current market.

I get annoyed when designs are toned down to suit environment issuses. and not giving this RWD with optional AWD is a tone down in my opinion.

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2008, 20:15:23 PM »
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Retro remakes always cause a stir, if they had called it the new Cougar or something new entirly i believe your reactions to it would of been different.

let Ford call it cougar, that car was a FWD to begin whit (except the u.s models). i would not mind if they call it cougar or somthing else.

but don't call this modifyed focus, a capri. it will never live up to the expectation to be a real RWD drivers and sports car, that the capri was ment to be and whit the bigger engines, was.

this new "capri" is nothing more than a joke, a very bad one. if ford took them self serieusly, they would make it RDW and get the people back that now drive a bmw, mercedes or a porsche. keep the price reasonble, and it will sell.

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I doubt the hard core Mk1 Golf boys get p@ssed off a new model is introduced, it is just engineering evolution and what suits the current market.

i know a few "hardcore" Mk1 Golf boys, witch disagrees whit this statement.

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 00:23:02 AM »
Don't forget, our Capri was simply a Cortina with a sexy new body style, all the mechanicals were Cortina, same as the Manta was just a rebodied Ascona/Cavalier.  In those days, most platforms were RWD but cost constraints pushed most of the manufacturers to go FWD as it is cheaper to have the entire powertrain in one lump.  Everyone slagged off the Calibra when it was launched (not just because it was a Poxhole) because it was simply a rebodied Cavalier and the 4WD ones shared the Cavalier system which was pants.  A real Capri in the Cortina derived vein should be based on the Mondeo platform, I know that makes it FWD and the driving enthusiast won't like it.

As Ford don't own Jaguar any more, it would seem that the Mazda RX8 platform would be the best bet for an enthusiasts car.  This would be unlikely as Ford already own Mazda and wouldn't produce a model to compete directly with an existing model.  Only British Leyland did that all the time and where are they now?

Also remember that the Sierra was originally designed to be FWD but cost/time constraints meant it was completed with most of the drivetrain from the Cortina with just the De Dion rear axle as a departure.

By the way, I think that RWD or 4WD is the only acceptable way to propel a car.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 09:01:56 AM »
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Also remember that the Sierra was originally designed to be FWD but cost/time constraints meant it was completed with most of the drivetrain from the Cortina with just the De Dion rear axle as a departure.


Niether had a De Dion

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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 10:01:46 AM »
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Don't forget, our Capri was simply a Cortina with a sexy new body style, all the mechanicals were Cortina,

i am not talking about how the capri was developed those days, but what the capri has become true out the years. a real drivers car. a icon.

if it had FWD back them, i don't think it would be a succes true out it's 17 production years on the road and on the track. and would suffer the same faith like the sciroco and the calibra. it looks like a sports car, but thats where it ends. and those car are more expencive and less practical than a golf and a vectra. and those car's drive like your average golf or vectra, and whats the fun in that? is this what the customer want's? i don't think so.
 
if Ford wants to build a sports car like the capri was, then build the new capri like a sports car, whit RWD or 4WD. don't make the same misstakes like vw and vauxhull did.

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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2008, 23:12:09 PM »
OK, De Dion type, as in fixed diff & open driveshafts, rather than a live axle like the Cortina.

What Ford should do is produce a RWD real enthusiasts car.  They can call it what they like.  I would suggest they don't use the Capri name because some purists will say it should be RWD.  Other purists will say a new Capri should be based on the Mondeo (as the Cortina successor) therefore it would be FWD.

I think they should sort some European standard suspension on the Mustang and sell that over here.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 15:59:56 PM »
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hello Simon.

i never said the capri should have a solid axle car with leaf springs, what i did say is that a capri should be RDW.

Ford can always use the platfrom and the supension from a jag, they are RWD. whit this, you could use almost every v6,v8,v10 and v12 Ford ever designed. so building a capri whit RDW should not be a problem. if Ford wants t build a cheap RWD car, they can use the platform off a mazda mx 5 or even beter, the rx 8.

as for your statement that no one would buy it, did you looked at bmw lately? at the 1 and 3 serie's? they outsell the mondeo at this moment on the lease marked. i have driven the 1 serie's whit the 6 cilinder and RDW, and in term off driving it, i loved it. there is no european ford at this moment that can match it in the fun department.

now Ford has the chance to build a real driver's car, make it RWD, give it power, and it will sell.

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Hi Paul.

Ford doesn't have a suitable European or Japanese RWD platform for a decent sized North-South engine installation. Have you seen how physically small the Renesis rotary engine is?  The MX-5 platform would be totally wrong given that it is designed as a 2 seater. The hardpoints wouldn't package.

I get pissed off when people think carte-blanche that RWD cars "handle" better than their FWD equivalents because that's total bullshit. OK an Elise will out-dance an Austin Allegro.  A decently engineered FWD chassis will run rings around a RWD - what about when Top Gear tested all the 2.0 petrol engined "CD" segment cars (they looked at who at the time supplied engines to F1 cars and used their Mondeo segment vehicles) - the Mondeo and lots of the other FWD cars showed a clean pair of heels to the 320i BMW.

PS New Mondeo customers are something like 45 to 50% new to Ford and what are they trading in? 3 series BMW, C class Mercedes and Audi's etc. Most are also opting for Titanium spec and lots of extras. The German press even said the Mondeo was now a serious contender to the 3 series.

All that happens if you put lots (too much) of power in a RWD car is that you make people want to drive sideways with the tyres smoking - the lad across the road to me found this out the hard way when he put his "Fast & Furious" lookalike Supra twin turbo sideways into a railing, spun and ripped half the front off.

Look back to the 1960's - who won the Monte Carlo Rally in 1964? What car was he driving? What wheels did the driving - front or back? What was his competition? What wheels did they have driven - front or back? Hint - google search "33 EJB"

I like FWD, RWD and 4WD cars - each have their own benefits. Take a Focus ST for a blast around your local track and tell me then that you didn't enjoy the handling... or all of the motoring jornalists wrong?


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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2008, 17:22:26 PM »
I like Simon 3 door    he talks sense  

Chill people and move with the times, RWD is old hat!
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2008, 17:40:56 PM »
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Chill people and move with the times, RWD is old hat!


Sorry, couln't resist it  


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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2008, 20:04:14 PM »
      thats a cracker      

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2008, 21:21:47 PM »
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Hi Paul.

Ford doesn't have a suitable European or Japanese RWD platform for a decent sized North-South engine installation. Have you seen how physically small the Renesis rotary engine is?  The MX-5 platform would be totally wrong given that it is designed as a 2 seater. The hardpoints wouldn't package.

bit strange, they fit v8 into the mx5 just take a look: http://www.monstermiata.ca/]http://www.monstermiata.ca/ rx7: http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/]http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/ and i know from the u.s mazda forum's they have done a v8 conversion on a rx8.

[quote name='Simon 3 door' date='May 9 2008, 04:59 PM' post='33257']I get pissed off when people think carte-blanche that RWD cars "handle" better than their FWD equivalents because that's total bullshit.  [/quote]

in the hands off a good driver, the RWD car will be faster than a FWD. this is proven fact. now comes the down site, most people don't know how to handle a RWD car whit some power and they crash.

[quote name='Simon 3 door' date='May 9 2008, 04:59 PM' post='33257']PS New Mondeo customers are something like 45 to 50% new to Ford and what are they trading in? 3 series BMW, C class Mercedes and Audi's etc. Most are also opting for Titanium spec and lots of extras. The German press even said the Mondeo was now a serious contender to the 3 series.[/quote]

maybe you should take a look at a bmw/mercedes and audi dealer, and look what they trade in there.

[quote name='Simon 3 door' date='May 9 2008, 04:59 PM' post='33257']All that happens if you put lots (too much) of power in a RWD car is that you make people want to drive sideways with the tyres smoking - the lad across the road to me found this out the hard way when he put his "Fast & Furious" lookalike Supra twin turbo sideways into a railing, spun and ripped half the front off.[/quote]

like i said before: most people don't know how to handle a RWD car whit some power and they crash.

i live in a nice pub neighbourhood, maybe you want to drop by on a friday or saterday night and look how many golfs, vauxhull and other fwd car dont make it true the corners.

[quote name='Simon 3 door' date='May 9 2008, 04:59 PM' post='33257']Look back to the 1960's - who won the Monte Carlo Rally in 1964? What car was he driving? What wheels did the driving - front or back? What was his competition? What wheels did they have driven - front or back? Hint - google search "33 EJB"[/quote]

it was also the only FWD car that ever won the monte carlo rally, you dont tell the hole story here. alote off car's did not made it to the finish.

[quote name='Simon 3 door' date='May 9 2008, 04:59 PM' post='33257']I like FWD, RWD and 4WD cars - each have their own benefits. Take a Focus ST for a blast around your local track and tell me then that you didn't enjoy the handling... or all of the motoring jornalists wrong?
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nope, your are right, i drove the ST at zolder belguim, and it drove perfect, very good handeling, the only thing that pissed me off was that bmw 3 serie's, that was faster than me in every corner.

but if you read my comments, i was not talking about handeling, but about something completly different. maybe you missed that. the same way the designer's missed the essence off building a capri.

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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2008, 21:58:53 PM »
well now all i will say is this

i own 1 xr4i rwd I love it  but  its my toy and its getting on a bit

as an evry day car i needed a newer rwd car i HAD TO GO BMW TO GET IT, i dont do FWD..

p.s ford did have RWD and scrapped it
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2008, 13:11:16 PM »
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bit strange, they fit v8 into the mx5 just take a look:
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Yes thats fine but the position of the engine & trans is such that it suits a 2 seat configuration - you would have to stretch the platform to fit in a back seat which would upset the balance of the car and not make it a common platform.

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and i know from the u.s mazda forum's they have done a v8 conversion on a rx8.

Squeezing the engine in as a conversion is one thing. Fitting one in and making it meet crash, thermal etc requirements such that it is LEGAL to sell is a completely different matter. I've seen a Rover V8 engine fit in a 3 wheeler but that doesn't make it a good idea!

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in the hands off a good driver, the RWD car will be faster than a FWD. this is proven fact. now comes the down site, most people don't know how to handle a RWD car whit some power and they crash.

SO you recon the Stig isn't a good driver????    

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maybe you should take a look at a bmw/mercedes and audi dealer, and look what they trade in there.


no need - my local Ford dealer has traded in lots of BMW's and Mercedes etc. These people have bought S-Max, Galaxy and Mondeo cars - it's something like 50 something percent of these buyers are new to Ford as a brand from the so called "luxury" brands.

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like i said before: most people don't know how to handle a RWD car whit some power and they crash.


agreed, however the majority of people don't drive that fast on the public roads - it is irresponsible  

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i live in a nice pub neighbourhood, maybe you want to drop by on a friday or saterday night and look how many golfs, vauxhull and other fwd car dont make it true the corners.

the problem there is the young "chavs" who pass their driving test and then think they can drive. Mind you, I've not liked the way a Golf or any Vauxhall goes through the corners - in fact the steering wheel on a Vauxhall VXR ought to be a delete option as the torque steer decides where you go and there is so much plough on understeer even if you turn the wheel you go straight. Ford and Peugeot FWD chassis are in a different league.

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it was also the only FWD car that ever won the monte carlo rally, you dont tell the hole story here. alote off car's did not made it to the finish.

you missed the point Paul - the little front wheel drive car was slower on the straight sections but quicker in the corners. I had dinner with Paddy (Hopkirk) this week - he's a good friend of mine. He has told me though that the Citroen DS and Saab 96 also were Monte winners and they are front wheel drive aren't they?

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nope, your are right, i drove the ST at zolder belguim, and it drove perfect, very good handeling, the only thing that pissed me off was that bmw 3 serie's, that was faster than me in every corner.

maybe he was just a better driver?

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but if you read my comments, i was not talking about handeling, but about something completly different. maybe you missed that. the same way the designer's missed the essence off building a capri.

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Paul - people never bought a Capri for how it drove or handled. Lets face it they were uncomfortable to drive - low H point on the seat meant after a 10 mile drive you needed a chiropractor. People bought a Capri for how it looked.

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2008, 14:42:56 PM »
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nope, your are right, i drove the ST at zolder belguim, and it drove perfect, very good handeling, the only thing that pissed me off was that bmw 3 serie's, that was faster than me in every corner.

maybe he was just a better driver?

maybe he was a beter driver, i was faster going in to the corner, he was faster going out off the corner. every corner. the advantage off RWD is that you can go earlyer on the trottle when you exit the corner. do it whit a FWD, and the car goes sliding over the front wheels. i admit the st has a chassis thats very good, much beter than the golf and way beter vauxhull. that car beheave's like a alfa. there is only so much the FWD can handle in term off power, and the limit seems to be around 200 to 250 hp. if FWD was that good, why is RWD the most used on race car's?

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Paul - people never bought a Capri for how it drove or handled. Lets face it they were uncomfortable to drive - low H point on the seat meant after a 10 mile drive you needed a chiropractor. People bought a Capri for how it looked.

i don't think people buy a rs2600 or a 2.8i or any other 6 cilinder, just for the looks. people buy the 1300, 1500, 1600, 1700 or 2.0l for that.

as for the seat's, i have recardo's in mine. no problems on long drive's.

like i said before, i was not talking about handeling or even comfort, but about something completly different. maybe you missed that. the same way the designer's missed the essence off a capri.

the capri may not be the best car to drive, and there are car's that look even beter, and are more practical, but the capri has its one personality, it's one look's, its one history, it's one feeling when you drive a capri. the RWD has made the capri into a real driver's car in it's day's and even today.

don't rape the capri by making it FWD because RWD is a big part off that personality and history.

let the designers drive a old v6 capri for a while, than they know what i am talking about.

greetz paul.

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greetz Paul.

Capri V8 Driver.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2008, 18:25:03 PM »
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Paul - people never bought a Capri for how it drove or handled. Lets face it they were uncomfortable to drive - low H point on the seat meant after a 10 mile drive you needed a chiropractor.

This is bollocks, the recaro seated ones were fantastically comfortable in both the front and the back, more so than full leather sapph cos interior in my 4be.


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Something like 36/44 F/R  sounds like a great combo...    

Sounds like it would be about 20% down on power from a 46/54 split.....  

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2008, 18:40:05 PM »
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This is bollocks, the recaro seated ones were fantastically comfortable in both the front and the back, more so than full leather sapph cos interior in my 4be.
Sounds like it would be about 20% down on power from a 46/54 split.....  

Comfy? Driving the old Capri was like sitting in a fucking canoe compared to a modern car with a higher H point.

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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2008, 18:53:43 PM »
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This is bollocks, the recaro seated ones were fantastically comfortable in both the front and the back, more so than full leather sapph cos interior in my 4be.
Sounds like it would be about 20% down on power from a 46/54 split.....  


Doh, I obviously meant a 36/64 split just like the Sierra 4x4....  

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