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Author Topic: Need a bit of advise about welding and MOT's  (Read 2856 times)

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seany

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Need a bit of advise about welding and MOT's
« on: March 17, 2008, 20:18:27 PM »
im 99% sure it is, but does this look like an MOT faliure...

front of sill by drivers door...









also the little holes that used to hold the screws that attached the trim (which is now gone as its a track car...)...the holes have opened up over the years, there not corroded but there technically within 30cm of the seat belt mounts...









Faliure or not??



also the drivers door is knackered at the top, this aint a faliure in the MOT, but fiberglassing and filling it will make it look a lot better...




how much should i be paying somone to weld some plates in, and theres also a hole in the drivers rear footwell...about 150mm square....



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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2008, 20:31:29 PM »
With out a doubt, even a tester with his hat over his eyes would not pass that!!

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 20:47:50 PM »
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With out a doubt, even a tester with his hat over his eyes would not pass that!!

TT
Not only that would you feel safe in an accident??

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 18:43:58 PM »
First pic isn't, I know most testers would fail it but they shouldn't. Bible states they should be within 30cm of brakes steering susspension seat anchorage or seat belts etc

But while your welding the inner sills which would be a fail your as well putting a plate on the other bit.

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2008, 18:51:33 PM »
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First pic isn't, I know most testers would fail it but they shouldn't. Bible states they should be within 30cm of brakes steering susspension seat anchorage or seat belts etc

But while your welding the inner sills which would be a fail your as well putting a plate on the other bit.
Yea spanners right 30cms    12 inches to the imp guys all around bear in mind also jagged edges protruding also come into it...eg would be a hole in your roof by the gutter if it was within 30cm's of your seat belt mounting it would fail...we dont make the rules VOSA do that and we have to be spot on or we get clobbered...regards glyn

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2008, 19:06:22 PM »
You a tester too glyn?
If so yeah you'll know we're damned if we do damned if we don't. vosa have final say and sadly common semse is not in the bible. Points points points dished out from vosa peole who may noy have had any hand in the motor trade whasoever - could have been a hairdresser to trade but they go by the bible to the letter.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2008, 19:20:31 PM »
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You a tester too glyn?
If so yeah you'll know we're damned if we do damned if we don't. vosa have final say and sadly common semse is not in the bible. Points points points dished out from vosa peole who may noy have had any hand in the motor trade whasoever - could have been a hairdresser to trade but they go by the bible to the letter.
YES mate and as you say No common sense ,not allowed,if you go on the course the instructors first sentence was,if your thinking of using your own common sense then theres the door,everyone laughed and he went to the door ,opened it and said all of you that laughed out..wev all gasped,but never went out.So the man in the street don't know the half,we're spyed on pounced on and sh.. on can't win.but we try and keep our noses clean...good luck my man regards glyn...the slowest tester in the west....  

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2008, 19:36:12 PM »
so if your sill and floor is totally shot, but not within 30cm of the afformentioned areas. And is not jagged then it would pass?

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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2008, 19:38:45 PM »
Been on two 5 yearly refreshers Glyn, yeah exactly as you say. Makes me wonder why we bother. The risk assesment was unreal, total waste of time as far as I'm concerned. What the hell doe's it matter how often you sweep your forecourt? bleedin wind and rain does that for us lol

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2008, 19:57:41 PM »
Rob TT,

Basically YES.
public don't know the half of it mate. Lots of stuff failed that shouldn't be but then biggest majority of testers are mechanics as well also garage proprioters. So here's the dilema - we can be faced with something that they would say is a pass or pass & advise but we know in safety terms it's clearly FUBAR. Do you risk sending out an unroadworthy or unsafe vehicle putting your reputation at risk? or chance it thinking vosa will back you up should something go wrong? They should back you up if done by the book but you can never be sure. They use the term "testers discresion" but in reality thats a load of boll*cks at the end of the day they have final say and as mentioned most of them have no mechanical knowledge only a crash course on whats in testers manual. Not only that you complain your brakes should have passed they don't just check your brakes they test the whole car again 2 of them taking about 2hrs. They could agree with tester on brakes decission but have him over a barrel on something else they've found.

Read the back of your MOT ticket you'll see it only means your vechicles met MINIMUM requirements it doesn't mean it's roadworthy or servicable for next 12 months which is what 99% of the public think. Infact most items in MOT are only deemed ok ON DAY of the test.

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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2008, 19:59:03 PM »
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bleedin wind and rain does that for us lol

And you get lots in Aberdeen!!!

TT

 

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