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Title: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on December 03, 2005, 21:39:40 PM
Well the press loved this car, just the price tag put people off due to the ression that hit the U.K at the time.

Here is some reviews to start off with.

Minker K1 (Dulux owns this car)

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Minker Vs Honda NSX

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Minker Vs Cossie
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Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on June 27, 2006, 11:12:36 AM
There is a possibility some things here could be wrong as reliable info is hard to find!
But this is how I see it.

Basic Facts.

All Minker's are MK2 XR4x4 Sierra based.

The Minker name comes from the owner of TT, Geoff Kershaw’s surname & his wife’s maiden name. (Min + Ker).
Anything they considered special got the name Minker, hence there is or was even a Minker surf board!!!!

3 K1 Minker's & 6 323's where built by TT.
All the Minkers where built at Northampton or TT south not at the dealers.
Some cars where built after 1995 but these where not built by TT, they where either copies or made up of Minker parts after that arm of TT that did the conversions stopped trading.
These later cars where not true Minkers as they lacked many of the STD Minker spec parts.

It's believed TT built 9 Minker spec cars.

K1's are the full Minker spec (interior, bodywork & mechanical)
323's are just mechanical with interior as optional etc.

In 1990 a K1 was £41,900 new. A 323 was £34,500 new in 1991.

History

In 1987/8 TT came up with the Minker idea & had a red development car on the road.
It used the new Sierra 2.9 XR4x4 MK2 as a base that had just been released.
This was at the 1988 Motor show.
The red one was for the body kit development mainly & was fitted with a single turbo TT250 2.8 engine.
So it looks like a Minker but does not have the go of one!

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_k1Press1.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/k1Press1.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_k1Press2.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/k1Press2.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_k1PressPicture.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/k1PressPicture.jpg)

The TOP GEAR Motor Fair show report was started off with Noel Edmunds driving the red car that was fitted with the boring 2.8 TT250 engine, as it was a prototype.
Interestingly it had the number plate from the TT Dimma Peugeot on it!

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_TTPress000.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/TTPress000.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_TTPress001.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/TTPress001.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_TTPress002.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/TTPress002.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_TTPress007.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/TTPress007.jpg)

The finished K1 spec as of 1989/90. You will notice the power is only 300hp & the torque is less plus it also comes in later than later cars. Still development work ongoing :)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_TTPress005.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/TTPress005.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_TTPress006.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/TTPress006.jpg)

Then in 1990 TT built the Blue K1 (press Car) that dulux now owns on here.
This was the car that the press raved about at the time, also TT had now got the engine to make 320 bhp & 345 lbs at lower revs than before.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_Autocar000.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Autocar000.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_Autocar001.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Autocar001.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_Autocar002.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Autocar002.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_Autocar003.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Autocar003.jpg)

Later in 1990 the white K1 was built for a customer.
It was delayed as a strike was on-going at the time at the Ford factory & it took TT 5 months to do the conversion. Also it was interesting that was it was owned by Storment vehicle hire & the guy paid for it monthly :lol:

Last update of K1 spec Jan 1991

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In 1991 TT decided that maybe the public was not ready for the K1, so they built a "Minker 323" press car which was a K1 but without the bodywork & interior mods. It looked nothing special but was infact one of the fastest road cars you could buy at the time.
Power rose to 323bhp & torque went to an amazing 348lbs at 2800rpm :o 1000rpm lower than the first K1's.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_323Memo1-1.jpg) (http://"http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/323Memo1-1.jpg") (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/th_323PriceList-1.jpg) (http://"http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/323PriceList-1.jpg")

TT Now had a brochure for both cars.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/th_MinkerK1Page1.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/MinkerK1Page1.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/th_Minker323Page1.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/Minker323Page1.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/th_Minker323Page2.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/Minker323Page2.jpg)  (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/th_Minker323Page3.jpg) (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Folder%201/Minker323Page3.jpg)

That's about it, TT did not build anymore K1's but did go on to build some 323's.
 
Sierra's then went out of production & that was that.

TT was just in the middle of completing a TT set-up for the 24V Cossie engine in 1997 when that side of the company ceased trading.
Dam shame that as Geoff's sprint car which has the development engine in, is still considered the best 24V around.
Infact it is a championship winning car & holds a number of track records.

Alan bought what he could from TT & went on to build more Minker based cars in various specs.
However none where full on conversions.

Cars

MNK 01  Was the prototype test engine/car that eventually made 400BHP & 460 lbs.
This is the actual car Geoff crashed on the track but he used the engine until 96ish, then Alan fitted the engine to his own spec car. Phatphil on here looks after it for his mate who bought it from Alan. Still alive & well.

MNK 02 Is Dulux's Blue K1 car. Alive & well.

MNK 03 is the white K1. Alive & well.

MNK 04 is the black 323 press car & is down London way. Alive & well.

MNK 05 is a black 323 with an RS kit fitted. Alive & well.

MNK 07 is the white 323 from the Oldham area. Alive & well.

MNK 09 is my black 323. Alive & well.

There is/was said to be a 1989 (first registered) red 323 car. This car has not been taxed or sorned since 2007 so I assume it's dead!
This car is/was either MNK 06 or 08 & must have not been Minkered as new as it's the only way it would fit into the time line!
However it should be noted that I am told there was some debate if this car was a TT built Minker or a clone!
I never saw it so can't comment but I assume it was the real deal.

There was a prototype red K1 car but it only had a 2.8 single turbo engine so is not included above.
This is the car that Noel Edmunds drove on T.V.
I was told this car was in bits in a guy’s garage.

Talk of a goldie coloured one but I think it is only talk.

Alan went on to build some high spec cars with the parts he bought from TT.
But as I said before these didn't have all the STD Minker mods so are not actually Minker spec cars.

I know of 4 of them.

Gengis's dark grey car was one but is something completely different now!
Another was a blue XR4x4 that got smashed up.
Lastly a very STD looking estate that got broken for parts.
Also MNK 001 as included above, Alan built the car but the engine was from the first Minker.

There are as many if not more TT based cars that are running Minker power but where not built by TT as a Minker, so do not include the package of mods.
The Minker package was the result of years of testing, so was far more than just an engine!

The end.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Tony on September 10, 2006, 15:32:53 PM
As Dave said "TT was just in the middle of completing a TT set-up for the 24V Cossie in 1997 when that side of the company ceased trading"


So the 24v Minker never became a reality, but the development car did and as far as we know its still running, and running well!!
The car belongs to the owner of TT Geoff, its his track car & is called either the K2 or Minker depending who you speak to.

The known specs are:


Bottom end:
Modded oil ways, dual crank feed, piston sprays, girdle, AE pistons with ceramic tops/slippey skirts, 7.25:1 comp.
Max 7000rpm with 7500rpm over rev capability. STD crank & rods.

Top is:
Modded heads/ports with enlarged exhaust ways & 34mm ex. vavles.
Custom inlet, 12 injector's, inlet trumpets, 6 hitachi ign. coils.

Turbo's:
Garret T28VNT's turbines with T3 compressors reworked by TT with custom casting.
(Use variable inlet technology)

About 500BHP per tonne, car weighs about 1000kg.

1 bar is about 530bhp, 1.6 bar is just over 600bhp/500lbs & it's sister engine did 750bhp on an engine dyno but ran into reliability problems.

Also uses 3.14:1 C & P in the diffs to!

O.k so ya impressed and want to see it,,,right?

here ya go!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on September 10, 2006, 21:42:24 PM
No dyno sheet yet still working on that  

I know it seems alot Mike but it's a very trick engine, you got the normal injector's which are uprated then some that squirt into the trumpets depending on load, the heads are ported & some fancy valve work.

Geoff is not the kind of guy to up the figure but that said them figures are probably when the engine was on the test bed, you can get better figures that way  

I believe it, I don't think anyone is going to get near it for a while yet as even now it's still very trick & would be expensive to match.

I think mine will be always 50 - 100bhp behind it at the same boost. When I finish it.


If you think about it.

We know that a BOA with proper management, inlet & some cam work can make 250 - 260 bhp.

So add to that heavily worked on heads then forget about that because it's lower compression then take the upper figure 260bhp & double it, hmmm it is about right. 520 bhp.

It is just possible but shows the engine must be well done to get his results.

They must have outside help I think, no one can get it so right from the the very start with no info to go on either.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Phatphil on September 14, 2006, 23:12:37 PM
Here is the spec sheet that Geoff sent me once, pretty much as posted before, but maybe of some interest.

MINKER II ENGINE

ENGINE TYPE V6 turbocharged - 2933cc, based on the Ford/Cosworth FBA.
CYLINDERS Bore                     - 93.03mm Stroke - 72.00mm
COMPRESSION RATIO              - 7.25
FUEL TYPE Pump fuel                - 98 RON
POWER OUTPUT                       - 600 + BHP.
Rated speed                            - 7,000 rev/min. Max. speed 7,500 rev/min
Max torque                              - 500 + lbf-ft @ 4,000 rev/min.

MECHANICAL SPECIFICATION

CYLINDER BLOCK Cast iron, water-cooled. Twin stiffener rails to support main bearing caps.

CRANKSHAFT Cast iron, ¾ - counterweighted and dynamically balanced. Steel alternative.

PISTONS Solid forged aluminium alloy pistons with dished crown. Oil-cooled by fixed sprays.

CYLINDER HEADS Cosworth heads with exhaust ports CNC machined and fitted with larger exhaust valve seat inserts.

VALVES Standard inlet valves. Exhaust valves 2-piece stellite faced 34.0 diameter. Hydraulic  adjustment.

OIL SYSTEM Conventional wet sump oil system with a secondary off-take via a 2 bar priority valve for oil cooling jet feeds.

FLYWHEEL Steel flywheel with separate pressed steel ring gear to suit application. Hub keyed to crankshaft with 6 radial keys.

INDUCTION SYSTEM Low volume plenum with folded taper inlet stubs. Twin butterfly progressive throttle.

EXHAUST MANIFOLDS Cast ni-resist manifolds of log type. Loose turbine flanges for installation flexibility.

TURBOCHARGERS Twin turbochargers based on Garrett T28 VNT (Variable Nozzle Turbine) with T3 compressor. Variable nozzle control from the ECU via solenoid bleed valves. Boost pressure control via integral wastegates controlled from the ECU via solenoid bleed valves.

FUEL INJECTION 12 injectors in high / low mounting configuration. Low injectors at cylinder head face, high injectors at the inlet bell mouths. Injectors sequentially operated and phased from low to high depending upon engine load.

IGNITION Direct fire coils mounted over the spark plugs, running wasted spark.

ENGINE MANAGEMENT Pectel T6 Management running with 3.0 bar map sensor incorporating data logging, hot shift, traction control, and launch control.

Phil
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: sprintman on October 15, 2009, 20:26:18 PM

Saw Geoff Kershaw with his Sierra earlier this year at a couple of sprints.  Car still looks pretty similar to the pictures, but has a large cut out under the rear end forming a venturi to exhaust air from the rear mounted radiator.  Blew an Mt75 gearbox at one meeting, Geoff said that was not the first time!  Beautifully engineered competition car with lots of interesting detail modifications.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Count on October 15, 2009, 21:14:16 PM
How are the oil sprays done..?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on October 16, 2009, 09:59:22 AM

His are mounted on the girdle & can be shut off.


Sprintman

Yeah he has broken alot of MT75's.

He was gonna fit a Skyline box but after looking at how the transfer works he is worried it will affect the cars handling.

Spent 3K on a uprated box for it that should never break.

Not sure if he has fitted yet but he has bought it.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Count on October 17, 2009, 08:42:18 AM
Any chance of seeing a piccie of this..? As I cant figure out how I'm going to mount mine.. :$
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on October 17, 2009, 11:01:46 AM

It would be hard to copy TT's  girdle as it is nothing like any other on here.

It is shaped round the rotating assembly.
For this reason the oil sprays can be mounted on it.


Look at how they add oil sprays to V8's etc & copy that.

That is what I have done, they are fed off the main bearings & you need the uprated oil pump.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Count on October 18, 2009, 21:22:36 PM
check..

Now I know how I'm going to mount them.
Hope to have the prototype of the little surprise I and SveinA are working on within three weeks,
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Mikey J on October 18, 2009, 21:36:27 PM
Dave, how do they make a switchable oil spray?  I've a chevy project in mind and would like the oil sprays to be boost related.  I've not really thought about it yet but maybe a selonoid valve would do the job.

Mind you that could suddenly drop pressure to the mains/rods under load so maybe it needs to be an active 'leak' all the time and keep it simple instead   that's the way to do it!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Janspeedcapri on October 19, 2009, 13:17:39 PM
Quote from: Mikey'J
Mind you that could suddenly drop pressure to the mains/rods under load

Would an oil accumilator help?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Cortiworth IV on October 19, 2009, 18:18:05 PM
Quote from: Mikey'J
... maybe it needs to be an active 'leak' all the time and keep it simple instead   that's the way to do it!

All oilpumps run in "active leak" mode as soon as the oilpressure bypass valve opens. Without it the oilpressure would hit the roof.
As long as the overall capasity of the pump is high enough I can's see any problem with a switched oilspray.  The oilpressure bypass
valve will compensate for drop in oilpressure immediatly.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Mikey J on October 19, 2009, 18:31:43 PM
Thanks Svein, something for me to think about.  What about the switching arrangement, any thoughts on that?  I could forget switching and just leave squirters operational all of the time.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: JFB Tech on October 19, 2009, 19:34:43 PM
Best way would be to have the cooling sprays operate on a pressure switch, if the oil pressure drops below a certain pressure the sprays shut off saving the engine from oil starvation.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Cortiworth IV on October 19, 2009, 20:51:09 PM
Quote from: JFB Tech
Best way would be to have the cooling sprays operate on a pressure switch, if the oil pressure drops below a certain pressure the sprays shut off saving the engine from oil starvation.

A pressure drop will only occur if the total oilflow in the galleries is higher than the oilpump capasity at the preset relief valve pressure. If the pump has the capasity to maintain pressure at
full flow, + a safety margin, only a major fault can make the pressure drop. Like a bearing failure, pump failure or loss of oil. Another thing is that the oilpressure vary alot within the engine. The further away from the pump, the less pressure. Where to measure the pressure?
A pressure switch may save the bearings, but most likely you loose piston cooling when you need it the most.  You may just as well connect a pressure switch as a kill switch. If the oilpressure drops for any reson the best way to save the engine is to shut it down.

A solenoid hydraulic valve operated by a pressure switch can be used to switch on/off the oilspray. A 12V DC solenoid valve rated for +100C oil may be a bit difficult to find, tho.
Ask in a hydraulics shop.
Here's an example from a Norwegian supplier: http://www.mamut.net/controls/shop/shops/4/standardplist.asp?wwwalias=tgelectronicsno&subgid=223&gid=222]http://www.mamut.net/controls/shop/shops/4...223&gid=222
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Janspeedcapri on October 19, 2009, 20:59:49 PM
Quote from: Cortiworth IV
The oilpressure bypass valve will compensate for drop in oilpressure immediatly.

The bypass valve on the pump is to relieve EXCESS oil pressure - it won't prevent a drop. Run the sprays off an accumilator so you have 2 sources of oil pressure - the pump for the normal duties and the accumilator for fancypants sprays.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Cortiworth IV on October 19, 2009, 21:36:27 PM
Quote from: Janspeedcapri
Quote from: Cortiworth IV
The oilpressure bypass valve will compensate for drop in oilpressure immediatly.

The bypass valve on the pump is to relieve EXCESS oil pressure - it won't prevent a drop. Run the sprays off an accumilator so you have 2 sources of oil pressure - the pump for the normal duties and the accumilator for fancypants sprays.

The bypass valve is bleeding excess oil as soon as set pressure is reaced. A standard oilpump may have an overcapasity as much as 100% to make up for future tear and wear pluss safety margin.
Normally, full oilpressure is reaced at +1500 rpm.  From this rpm and up the pump is pumping more than the engine can flow. This excess oil is bled of in the bypass valve.
If the flow in the galleries increases the bypass valve bleeds off less and less oil. The instant it shuts the pressure start to drop. The bypass valve monitor the pressure continiuosly and respond
to pressure fluctuations instantaniously. As long as the pump has enough capasity there is no need for external aids. An accumulator is just an excuse to not fit a bigger oilpump or go drysump.
The accumulator fill up when the engine is running at full oilpressure and release the oil when/if the pressure drops. It can only supply a limited quantity of oil for a short while. Hopefully it may be enough to save the engine.  It's not possible to separate the accumulator from the main lubricating system as the accumulator is charged from the oilpump. Or do you suggest to run a separate oilpump for the accumulator and oilsprays? Also, the oil level in the sump will vary quite a lot depending on which state of charge the accumulator is in. In my opinion the accumulator is a band aid, not a cure.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on October 20, 2009, 09:04:30 AM

Mike I have not seen his set-up all I know is what he has told me.

It does run off a pressure switch so they only squirt over a certain oil pressure. i.e high revs.

The STD pump is not man enough to run them all the time & two turbo's  

An accumilator may work for 30 secs but what happens if your at idle for long periods or low revs.
The accumilator won't work then as it will run out of stored oil.


I think the higher flow pump may be man enough but needs testing.

Orginally I was gonna use two oil pumps & an accumilator but I will re-think this & test the HV pump.

It is how Cortiworth IV has explained but the STD pump is already at almost max flow on a STD engine.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Mikey J on October 20, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
Thanks for the replies.  This is an ls7 engine with an internal oil & dry sump pump.  The later version (LS9)  does run squirters but I've not checked to see if it shares the same oil pump.  I'm hoping it does though as this would seem the easiest route to take and the safest to.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Janspeedcapri on October 20, 2009, 19:40:24 PM
Quote from: Cortiworth IV
Hopefully it may be enough to save the engine.  It's not possible to separate the accumulator from the main lubricating system as the accumulator is charged from the oilpump. Or do you suggest to run a separate oilpump for the accumulator and oilsprays? Also, the oil level in the sump will vary quite a lot depending on which state of charge the accumulator is in. In my opinion the accumulator is a band aid, not a cure.

Its meant for preventing momentary pressure loss caused by the pickup becoming uncovered, like during hard cornering, braking and accelerating so my 2qt should be fine.
They also alow yu to pre oil the engine, by releasing the accumilated oil before startup, when 60-70% of engine wear occurs.
Another benefit for me was the total oil capacity increase, which more than compensates for having a modified (smaller capacity) sump. I didn't get it to avoid anything, I have a highflow pump as well, mainly as I have an oilcooler too.


What I was suggesting was running the sprays off the accumilator.

Edit - ^Thinking about it, I agree this won't work for oil sprays. In that case, yeah, run a seperate pump for the sprays maybe? There must be a suitable pump out there - then controlling it would be easy.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: sprintman on October 27, 2009, 00:51:53 AM
Just a thought - how about running a separate oil pump, like an external dry sump pump, to run the oil sprays?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Count on October 27, 2009, 08:50:56 AM
this may sound like a daft Q, but did the minker come with LHD...?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: turboshed on October 27, 2009, 17:09:02 PM
no they where all right hand drive...hehe
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Count on October 27, 2009, 18:30:19 PM
Hmmm... Well, I'm sure one could be converted.!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on October 28, 2009, 08:06:13 AM

Yeah as far as we know there was no LHD Minker but I have still not tracked down MNK 5, 6 or 8 builds so who knows  

They would have had no problems building one if ordered.

F80 is a Sierra LHD TT225 kit so they already had the basic parts to do it.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Pin_cushion on October 28, 2009, 11:56:49 AM
Sounds like there is some minker parts in a tt sierra for sale on pistonheads at the moment, although it could just be a selling tactic...

Pin_cushion...
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on November 05, 2009, 17:48:55 PM
Don't know if any of you have seen it but Geoff Kershaws mk1 4x4 24v twin turbo is in Performance Ford this month, big write up as well
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on November 06, 2009, 11:48:48 AM

Well he has still got a store room full of 24V turbo parts to sell  

Cheers Toby will have to look out for a copy.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on November 06, 2009, 15:46:28 PM
Geoff will be very happy with that.

Some great Minker info in that write up to.

What alot of people don't realise is the Minker was designed first.
All the TT 2.9 kits are detuned versions that came out first as the Minker was still being tested.

Also the Minker test engine was one of the first 2.9's made as Geoff had to drive to the factory to pick it up off the production line in a Granada Estate.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: scud on November 08, 2009, 12:20:44 PM
My misses just came back from the shop with a copy looking very pleased with herself "Look" she said "its not full of cosworths , this is an xr is'nt it ?"
Im very proud
its a good article too :O)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Count on November 08, 2009, 18:41:37 PM
I envy you..  My girlfriend can hardly tell a scorpio from a sierra..
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on March 31, 2010, 18:56:25 PM
Has anyone got any info on the tt280? in particular the 2.8 version??
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on April 04, 2010, 22:31:52 PM

A 2.8 280!


Firstly I would love to see some pictures of it  

That was a mega rare kit mate very little info on them.

I think it used the 2.9 turbo's.

It has the fordged pistons & a fair bit of head work too.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 05, 2010, 22:19:07 PM
Quote from: Dave
A 2.8 280!


Firstly I would love to see some pictures of it  

That was a mega rare kit mate very little info on them.

I think it used the 2.9 turbo's.

It has the fordged pistons & a fair bit of head work too.
The turbos are T2s and mine have consecutive serial numbers too so im guessing they are original and over 20 years old now and they are still going strong, notice the rs 500 intercooler and 13 row oil cooler (i think its 13), The brochure for the 2.8s had all the performance spec for all the other tt kits apart from the tt280 which only stated...Watch this space.
I would be very interested in any info anyone else has on this conversion... It still goes like stink  
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/DSC00425.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/DSC00490.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on April 05, 2010, 23:58:50 PM

There is some info here http://www.fordpower.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=586]http://www.fordpower.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=586

Is the intercooler STD TT then as thats bigger than any other TT one I have seen.

Also can you take a picture of the the turbo's, are they the early T2's with a water pipe conecting at the top?

Very very rare car that!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 06, 2010, 00:25:40 AM
Quote from: Dave
There is some info here http://www.fordpower.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=586]http://www.fordpower.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=586

Is the intercooler STD TT then as thats bigger than any other TT one I have seen.

Also can you take a picture of the the turbo's, are they the early T2's with a water pipe conecting at the top?

Very very rare car that!
Yes they have the water pipes at the top,the cooler looks as old as the rest of the stuff thats fitted and painted black like the ali boost pipes, i will get a few pics tommo'the car has no numbers next to the drivers seat,they are stamped into the strut top under the bonnet,im not sure this engine started life in this car tho' the front diff is stamped..13842 but the rear seems to be standard 3.62, and the engine number is an 1988 number? it also had the v small & slightly dodgy steering wheel, the front springs are blue too which  i think was the TT uprated stuff, it also had the minker spec discs which had to be replaced after one developed a huge crack  I only get out in it about once a week and it still scares me now and then, its not done 80k mile yet too  
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 06, 2010, 17:54:57 PM
pisc of both turbos and the dcu
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC00301.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC00303.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC00304.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: turboshed on April 08, 2010, 18:54:06 PM
don't look like t2's to me,and there are no waterfeeds to them,those are oil feed and return lines.whats the serial number on the little plates on the turbo cores?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 09, 2010, 00:17:02 AM
I think from memory they are 089 and 090
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on April 17, 2010, 07:14:12 AM

Defo not water cooled.

Not seen T2's like that before, the oil cooled versions have like fins on the main housings I they don't.

Either very early examples or not T2's!


Very nice rare example!


Do you have a picture of the TT plate for my collection please!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 17, 2010, 10:13:45 AM
MMM? i presumed they were t2s as thats whats listed on the tt280 spec sheet??heres a few more pics, the serial numbers are the same but the part numbers are different,No tt plate im affraid,I asked a few qs bout the car when i bought it nearly 2 years ago and someone on here knew the car and said the fusebox lid had been knicked, the car has only done 9k miles in the last 10 years too, it also was on a different reg, D450YLE and WBU11 around 1988/89,Let me know what you think the turbos are  

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC07726.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC07727.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC07728.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC07729.jpg)
(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh385/cptchaos/fsoc/DSC07731.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on April 21, 2010, 00:39:26 AM

I will find out what turbo's they are for you.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: fordrwd4ever on April 21, 2010, 11:46:37 AM
This is the first time i ever have seen a Dutch vin plate on a Sierra.
Really wierd  

If anyone wants the translation:

"zonder aanbouwdelen" means Without Ancellaries
And "afzetten zonder primer" should mean Shutoff after primer(probably has something to do with the paint
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: cossiemk2 on April 21, 2010, 13:45:52 PM
Sierra's were also built in Belgium.

Mate of mine has a Saph Cossie with dutch VIN plate on it.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 21, 2010, 15:05:54 PM
It says DAVENTRY on it, so i doubt its dutch??????
Without ancillarys?? i wonder if the shell was bought without an engine new from ford? that may explain why the chassis number is not stamped in the floor next to drivers seat?
Also....... the car spent quite a few years in Saffron walden, any locals know owt bout it?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: cossiemk2 on April 21, 2010, 15:35:28 PM
Most likely the shell was built in Belgium and then shipped to the UK.

The plate says: without ancillaries, ship after primer.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: gazfromoldham on April 27, 2010, 22:27:35 PM
Hi there
I once heard talk of a minker in a scrap yard that had been smashed up?
can anybody shed any light on this one?

gazfromoldham
(minker 007)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on April 29, 2010, 11:40:41 AM
No idea Gaz.

The TT280 2.8 turbo's are T2's.
They are bigger than Minker spec.
60 trim with .63 exhaust housings.
With that cooler you have I am not surprized it goes well!

You kit number is F27

TT reckon about 6 where built.

2 of which are known to be dead.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on April 30, 2010, 18:58:57 PM
Mmmmm super rare, I want it
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ford sword on April 30, 2010, 21:56:21 PM
  Thanks for that Dave, excellent info! How many 2.9 280s did they make or did they only make 6 tt280s full stop?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on May 01, 2010, 17:29:45 PM
Quote from: ford sword
 Thanks for that Dave, excellent info! How many 2.9 280s did they make or did they only make 6 tt280s full stop?

Yeah about 6 2.8 TT 280's Twin Turbo's.
Both MFI's & EFI's.
They only did them just before the 2.9 was born hence so rare!
Was 1 single turbo 280 done as a special!

280 2.9's where common in comparison.
Over 50 of them.

Look after it as it might be the last one!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: sprintman on July 29, 2010, 18:01:19 PM
Hi, I've just remembered that a mate of mine had a turbo'ed Sierra XR 4 x 4 for sale about 15 years or so ago.  Don't know how he came by it and he didn't know anything about the spec.  I Don't know if it was a Minker, but I'm pretty sure it was a Turbo Technics conversion.  Was pretty rapid and I would have bought it if I'd had the cash at the time.  From memory it may have been a 2.8, think it was a single turbo and had the intake plenum reversed.  Don't remember seeing an oil cooler or intercooler on it though.  At the time I didn't know that there were such things as 'Minkers', and assumed it was just a Turbo Tecnics modified black Sierra XR 4 x 4 !
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on August 18, 2010, 01:28:41 AM

Never was a 2.8 Minker.

The Turbo Technics XR4i that did that Skier on the roof promo thing sometimes got called one but only made 230BHP!

There was a MK2 with the full K1 body kit with a 2.8 single turbo engine.
That was just to test the body kit & was not a Minker.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2012, 12:43:04 PM
Look what I found!

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/01.jpg)

It's only Minker 005! ;D

Turns out Simon the last owner for 10 years has kept a low profile on purpose.
The car is one of his pride & joys.

Anyway I heard that he may sell it to the right person so we jumped in mine & headed down south!

Sure enough it's the real deal, a full 323 conversion by TT from new with the optional 3.14 diffs.

Also has the flocked dash, Minker pedals & steering wheel.

"It is as I bought it from Reading 10 years ago" says Simon, exactly the same.

The only bits not right I can see is the air filters are missing & it has an adjustable fuel regulator.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/04.jpg)

We disscussed a deal & I happy to say the car will be in my shed very soon :mellow:

Looking forward to looking through the huge folder of history with the car in detail, always interesting.


The car is not perfect, machanically it seems all O.K but rust wise the sills have gone & the arches need some work too.

So it's a summer project car for me.

I could bodge it up & M.O.T it but the car deserves better, so I will find some time to cut all the rust out of it!

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/02.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/03.jpg)

I like the fact the RS kit makes it look different to mine.

Thanks to Simon for letting it go cause he really didn't want too!



THIS MEANS THERE IS ONLY ONE LAST MINKER TO FIND TO COMPLETE THE PUZZLE!

Hmmm I wonder where it is?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: fordrwd4ever on January 31, 2012, 13:11:59 PM
Wow, that is a rare find.
You can be proud of it ;D

Are you keeping it stock or is it going to be tuned like your other one?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Matt on January 31, 2012, 13:34:40 PM
Bloody hell dave

A pair of minkers both in black, your work shop will be getting crowded now lol

Matt
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on January 31, 2012, 18:36:42 PM
Damn damn damn............ I want it, I want it :mellow:

How does it run Dave? Also I think I spot the aircon on there, is that on all of them......... yours hasn't got it has it???

I'm going to stop eyeballing it now before I'm sick :laugh: :laugh:

Nice find ;)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: capri v8 driver on January 31, 2012, 19:57:39 PM
Very cool find and project.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TimoXr4i on January 31, 2012, 22:06:32 PM
Our lil sierra didnt pass the mot today, only a few issues,mlike a broken lightbulb, a worn bearing on the steering, again the rearbrake on the leftside is stuck, had it twice, and does anyone knows abouth an hose wotch should run from the harmonica rubbers on the steering? Never saw one on any sierra ive ever seen?

Hope the last minker is founf soon, and do you rebuild this one to original spec all the way? Should look really cool, this very fast sierra, and your, even faster sierra on the side?

Cheers mate!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2012, 23:19:52 PM
 :o That's a bit harsh Timo, basterd is a pretty nasty word for us brits even if I know your joking!
Be nice if you could change that!

Unlucky with the Sierra but sounds like simple fixes.
No idea what your on about
Quote
harmonica rubbers
but if it's the pipe some cars have that join the steering gaiters together, the sierra don't have one.


Toby it's a real shame how this all panned out, as you know you was next on the list for this car.

It runs just fine but because it's been stood for a while the sills have rotted out.
Looks O.K in the pictures but you wait till I get the skirts off :o
About £1500 of work for a body shop if done correctly.

Yes it has aircon.

I know neither mine or Gaz has aircon.

The rest I know of do.

It will be made good again but as far as mods there will be some but nothing as major as mine.

Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: cossiemk2 on February 01, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
Well that's another one accounted for.

Maybe the last one is also standing in a shed for the last 10 years.

Should be a looker once you get the rust sorted.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 01, 2012, 11:59:25 AM
It's alright mate, nice to know it's gone to a good home....... fix it up, make it right, and sell it me for a bargain price ;D

To be honest, with a car like that as long as the mechanicals are all good, then the bodywork issues are nothing major..... it is an old Ford after all!!

I was just intrigued about the aircon, I assumed that TT would have removed it, must be a bit of a squeeze surely...............
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TwinTurbo on February 01, 2012, 18:59:36 PM
Am i missing some posts here????

Has another minker turned up?

TT
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 01, 2012, 20:27:13 PM
Am i missing some posts here????

Has another minker turned up?

TT

Sure has, bottom of page 2 ;)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 02, 2012, 21:02:32 PM

Quote
I was just intrigued about the aircon, I assumed that TT would have removed it, must be a bit of a squeeze surely...............

It is mate & it also explains why the pipe work on a non A/C car looks a bit oddly designed.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: capri v8 driver on February 03, 2012, 19:27:45 PM
Aircon is a rare option on these cars. I would keep it.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: cossiemk2 on February 03, 2012, 22:12:46 PM
If you keep looking hard enough you will find it.

Dave has has a spot of luck on the Minker.

Anyone else would have thought "ow it's a Sierra"

I think people nowadays don't apreciate cars anymore.

A mate of mine has a subscribtion to Autoweek(a Dutch magazine) last week the did a feature on the 80's Granada.

This week a "show my car" on a 1982 XR3i.

They show old cars still running every day, and I like it.

Nowadays if your car is older 10 years it's a write-off.

I love people that still drive old cars and can apreciate them.

OK rant over.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TimoXr4i on February 04, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Not a total writeoff jurgen, our grey sierra is a 93 one, just a very naked solar, didnt even had a revcounter, but, i added scorpio leather, a complete dash with the armrest, a digital clock, added some bodycolor onthe dash, alloy rims, and the incurance says it is now tree times more worth than when whe bought it! They say its value is 1500 euros!

They must think its a cossy, has a cossy grille and revcounter :ph34r: ;D

Not as special as a minker, but also a nice ride. When my xr is up and running again ill take it to someone to get it incured for its value, last time they told me it was about 6k worth, also cossie parts, like grille and rims, and a special color. Not bad, couse i took it from the scrappers, for 250 euros, was standing for 9 years, fluid change, few s,all parts, a short drive with hard braking and such, and it passed its mot...

I sure wished i could find a minker in a shed for a good price, i only see an mk1 janspeedturbo sierra in fluo yellow abouth each day...
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 05, 2012, 21:37:21 PM
After 8 hours I got it home, funny how a bit of snow & ice really makes driving in the U.K a right nightmare!
Yet when I drove upto the artic circle a while back it was actually fun & alot less hassle!!!!

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/MNK0503.jpg)

The RS kit makes it look way different to mine, mine looks like well just like a Sierra where as the new one looks like it's doing 100mph standing still!

After some discussion I have decided to let Marcus my mate take ownership of the car.

What can I do with two Minker's any how, it would be expensive to insure both & run etc etc.

So MNK 005 is now Marcus's car

I will still do all the work it needs but I will get paid for it instead  ;D

Still gonna be the end of the year before I have time however!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 06, 2012, 10:35:29 AM
That's a pic and a half :mellow:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Matt on February 06, 2012, 10:58:38 AM
Will marcos be tuning it up like your dave?

whats he doing with the other 2 sierras hes got?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TimoXr4i on February 06, 2012, 12:04:23 PM
Sweeeeeeet!!!!! Im jealous!!!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 07, 2012, 11:31:15 AM
Will marcos be tuning it up like your dave?
whats he doing with the other 2 sierras hes got?

I think it will end up with bigger wheels to allow new front brakes & the old stuff stored.

Some parts will be swapped for new as the car has done 10K in the last 10 years so I am pretty sure once the cars pushed things will start to fail due to it being stood & not used etc.

One Sierra will be broke, another sold on, he also has a TT225 engine & a newly built Minker spec engine with ECU to sell on.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 07, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
a newly built Minker spec engine with ECU to sell on.

If I was Marcus I'd think about perhaps keeping that for a bit, you never know when it might come in handy...... spares for the Minker :laugh: :laugh:

As for the brakes, have you seen what Snoop's selling........ http://www.xrstyle.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=43254
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 07, 2012, 11:49:52 AM
He already has the brakes mate.

He wants to fit some 16 inch Escort Cossie wheels he has to it but I am trying to talk him out of it.

I'm sure once I put some proper painted up & polished Minker spec wheels on it he will like it.

Already there is talk of a full deluxe valet the weekend so hopefully him & his girl friend will do mine too!  ;D


As for spares the only thing I can't get is the one thing it needs which is the air filters.
Everything else on the Minker I can either make, get made or source.
So don't need to keep anything for just incase that will probably never be needed.

Except a gearbox or two  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 07, 2012, 17:01:41 PM
Is that a gearbox or two a year?!!!
 
The Escos wheels do look ace on the XR4x4, but they won't fit properly without quite a lot of messing about. I believe they are too wide and will foul the arches really badly, if not stick out so much they fail the MOT.

If Marcus is in full on valet mode I'll come too LOL :laugh:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 07, 2012, 22:19:05 PM
Is that a gearbox or two a year?!!!

The great thing about these cars is they usally have a folder of history.

I can tell it's had:

two new gearboxes
two new turbo's
1 set of big ends
a new camshaft
etc etc

Infact over 12K of receipts for various stuff including at least 8 batteries!!!!! ;D

The Escort Cossie wheels will fit a Minker mate as the front track is less on them compared to a STD car.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2012, 13:28:57 PM
You / he could try a set of the rs diamond cut wheels, they similar to the minker wheel, theres a few sets on ebay at the mo, mainly the 16 inch but there is a tatty set of 17s like mine
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: jaffa on February 11, 2012, 14:27:15 PM
Will marcos be tuning it up like your dave?
whats he doing with the other 2 sierras hes got?

I think it will end up with bigger wheels to allow new front brakes & the old stuff stored.

Some parts will be swapped for new as the car has done 10K in the last 10 years so I am pretty sure once the cars pushed things will start to fail due to it being stood & not used etc.

One Sierra will be broke, another sold on, he also has a TT225 engine & a newly built Minker spec engine with ECU to sell on.

not that ive got the money at the moment but spare tt225 or minker spec engine.....wonder how much ill get for a kidney ;D ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 11, 2012, 15:12:49 PM
not that ive got the money at the moment but spare tt225 or minker spec engine.....wonder how much ill get for a kidney ;D ;D

Buy that Minker spec engine Jaff, then you'll be virtually the same spec as me and we can race :laugh:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: jaffa on February 11, 2012, 15:44:11 PM
not that ive got the money at the moment but spare tt225 or minker spec engine.....wonder how much ill get for a kidney ;D ;D

Buy that Minker spec engine Jaff, then you'll be virtually the same spec as me and we can race :laugh:

i wish mate ;D ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: snoopaloopa on February 11, 2012, 16:27:33 PM
You can't beat an RS kitted mk2 sierra in my opinion, they just look the dogs  ;)


I know of a nice set of grey rims that would finish that car off perfectly  ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 11, 2012, 22:15:51 PM
Quote
You / he could try a set of the rs diamond cut wheels

I love them wheels Matt but not for Marcus but mine!

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not that ive got the money at the moment but spare tt225 or minker spec engine

Not talked to him about it really yet.

The TT225 is a complete kit including engine built up ready to fit, can start it up etc. Gota be worth £600+ I think.

The Minker spec engine is in a different league, there is £2000 of receipts for parts alone which is what I would say it's worth.

An engine builder would want 3 to 4K to build the same spec engine.
It has head braces & a main cap brace etc etc.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/NewBuild73.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/NewBuild75.jpg)

Quote
You can't beat an RS kitted mk2 sierra in my opinion, they just look the dogs

It does look good with the kit, I have the complete kit in storage, I am very tempted to fit it to mine now!
But I can't copy now can I. Dam!!!

He has been playing about with wheels today.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels06.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels03.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels09.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels15.jpg)

He tried my spare set of Minker wheels & it really looks the dogs with them on, pictures don't do it justice!
His spare is the same so this is how the car would have looked when it was first Minkered.

Interesting that it has a proper Zytek ECU so that means half the cars had one also & not the TT copy.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/ECU1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: jaffa on February 11, 2012, 22:22:34 PM
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You / he could try a set of the rs diamond cut wheels

I love them wheels Matt but not for Marcus but mine!

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not that ive got the money at the moment but spare tt225 or minker spec engine

Not talked to him about it really yet.

The TT225 is a complete kit including engine built up ready to fit, can start it up etc. Gota be worth £600+ I think.

The Minker spec engine is in a different league, there is £2000 of receipts for parts alone which is what I would say it's worth.

An engine builder would want 3 to 4K to build the same spec engine.
It has head braces & a main cap brace etc etc.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/NewBuild73.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/NewBuild75.jpg)

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You can't beat an RS kitted mk2 sierra in my opinion, they just look the dogs

It does look good with the kit, I have the complete kit in storage, I am very tempted to fit it to mine now!
But I can't copy now can I. Dam!!!

He has been playing about with wheels today.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels06.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels03.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels09.jpg)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels15.jpg)

He tried my spare set of Minker wheels & it really looks the dogs with them on, pictures don't do it justice!
His spare is the same so this is how the car would have looked when it was first Minkered.

Interesting that it has a proper Zytek ECU so that means half the cars had one also & not the TT copy.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/ECU1-1.jpg)

your a bad influence ;D ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on February 12, 2012, 15:30:18 PM
Much improved with those Minker wheels on it :mellow:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Matt on February 12, 2012, 16:37:51 PM
I pop over so you can try the 17's  ;D so long as i could get them back after lol  ;D  :P :P i could do with having your live data thing on it again, while its been stood over winter its developed a idling fault when cold :rolleyes:

out of those i do like the polished minker wheels

the cossie style ones are the mondeo version, not proper cossie one :P

ive got a set of the scorpio 12 spokers to you could try, no tyres on them though
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on February 12, 2012, 22:23:33 PM
I pop over so you can try the 17's  ;D so long as i could get them back after lol

the cossie style ones are the mondeo version, not proper cossie one :P

Yeah come over this weekend, no probs ;D

As soon as I saw them I told him, they don't even fill the arches, look shit!
I think the Escorts would fit but they would be tight!

The TT wheels are 15 x 7 ET26 & have some space where as Escorts are 16 x 8 ET25!

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/DavidHoward/Minker/Wheels12.jpg)

Not that it matters as I think he is sold on what the orignal would have looked like.


That's it now it got a wash & a polish, it will now sit in the shed for a few months till I have time to mess with it.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Matt on February 15, 2012, 23:17:51 PM
Wont be popping over this weekend mate, going down south for a few days

no rush anyways as the old girl wont be going on the road again for a good month anyway, im hoping for a good bit of rain to wash all the salt off the roads lol
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on August 30, 2012, 15:46:44 PM
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r584/Webbo_VXR/photo-1.jpg)

Thought you might like to see this so joined the forum :)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on August 30, 2012, 19:25:24 PM

Yeah thanks :mellow:

Heard it was back on the road ;D

Would love to see some more pictures of her!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: T4T on August 30, 2012, 19:45:16 PM
Nice , any more photos?
Please  !
 ;D

Matt
BTW Welcome to the forum .
Matt
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on August 30, 2012, 19:52:01 PM
Got 1 more on my photobucket but can't work out how to copy n paste from my phone, I will take more pics next time it's up outside my house should be back on road soon, still mint absolutely beautiful motor
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Matt on August 30, 2012, 22:39:11 PM
is this the missing one or is that one still missing? mk05 wasnt it?

lovely looking motor, that front bumper really changes the whole front end
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on August 30, 2012, 22:54:58 PM

This is the very first proto-type.

Sadly only fitted with a 2.8 single turbo but still a very nice motor!
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on August 30, 2012, 23:54:47 PM
This is the development car, my parents bought it from the motorshow in 88 I think maybe later.

It had lots of different clips n holes where they had tried different bumpers and like Dave said only had a single turbo n 2.8 engine this was tested by Noel Edmonds, I grew up with this car and it took me to school everyday for years :)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on August 31, 2012, 10:32:01 AM
I grew up with this car and it took me to school everyday for years :)

Alright, you've done it, I'm green with envy :laugh:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 AM
Gem

I also watched it get sold and cried for days haha :(
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on August 31, 2012, 17:32:14 PM
Gem

I also watched it get sold and cried for days haha :(

Oh no, gutted :( At least you got it back again ;)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on October 29, 2012, 13:15:58 PM
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r584/Webbo_VXR/photo-2.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r584/Webbo_VXR/photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on October 29, 2012, 17:27:23 PM
That's piped up very unusually for a single turbo, does it not use the intercooler?
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: mk2 cossie on October 29, 2012, 19:43:41 PM
That's piped up very unusually for a single turbo, does it not use the intercooler?
looks to me like the pipe at the front comes up from the intercooler to the intake on the MFI inlet  :o
looks good to me tho, quite like that front bumper as well  ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: ttxr4x4 on October 30, 2012, 00:08:18 AM
i think the intercooler has the inlet and outlet at the same end.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on October 30, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
Yeah I did wonder about that, seems an odd idea though, the boost has an awful lot longer distance to travel............
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: v6gerry on October 30, 2012, 19:41:35 PM
hi there a picture my old 2.8i tt showing how they were piped up  i had in my escort before i went 24v ( in members cars under 24v 4x4 turbo escort ) the sierra in the pic does have a very long pipe work , guess it would make it a little laggy ?
cherrs
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TimoXr4i on October 30, 2012, 22:00:00 PM
Rotating the inlet 180 degrees will make the pipes way shorter, but youll probs need a very lng throttle cable :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on October 31, 2012, 10:40:23 AM
Just looks odd, not the way they normally are, maybe it's to get rid of the amount of bends in the standard set up.............

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/littlegems4x4/The%20TT/Enginebay.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on October 31, 2012, 12:56:15 PM

Looks like a decent job was done of the restore, remember this car was in bits for years in a garage.  :mellow:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on November 09, 2012, 16:07:27 PM
Dave think it was in bits for around 9 years so its in decent condition don't want to show you the pics of the back lights or the filled in back door handles :( truly awful.

Its going back to standard I believe though
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: sierra3dr on July 13, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
this was tested by Noel Edmonds
When you mentioned that,I thought it was this one
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/sierra3dr/th_NoelEmondsMinker1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/sierra3dr/NoelEmondsMinker1.mp4)
It's a different one evidently,G260 NRA
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on July 13, 2013, 10:41:31 AM

No same car mate.

That number plate is off the Dimma 205 that was on the stand next to it.

Didn't want the car to have an old E plate on it lol

Good job it was a private road.  ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: sierra3dr on July 14, 2013, 08:05:33 AM
Dimma 205
Didn't know what one was until now. There's one being driven around Rawtenstall,or it might be a replica
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TwinTurbo on July 15, 2013, 12:34:15 PM
Dimma was the replica of the T16 ;)

Were all the rage back in the 90's

TT


Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on July 16, 2013, 11:25:39 AM
Dimma 205
Didn't know what one was until now. There's one being driven around Rawtenstall,or it might be a replica

Could well be real that Paul, Dimma was based just up the road from where we live ;)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on July 18, 2013, 13:44:24 PM
this was tested by Noel Edmonds
When you mentioned that,I thought it was this one
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/sierra3dr/th_NoelEmondsMinker1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/sierra3dr/NoelEmondsMinker1.mp4)
It's a different one evidently,G260 NRA

Yeah that is the one mate.

I believe it is now back to standard and should be making some more appearances around Dewsbury.

Amazing car
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on July 18, 2013, 23:04:35 PM
The G260 NRA Dimma had TT's top 205 conversion on it & I think was red, thought I had a picture of it but can't find it. It was very rapid as you can imagine!

DVLA shows it has not been taxed or sorned since 17/03/1997 so got to be dead!


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Yeah that is the one mate.
I believe it is now back to standard and should be making some more appearances around Dewsbury.

You mean it's back to how TT had it for the shows not a boggo xr4x4 lol ;D

Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on July 19, 2013, 11:40:11 AM
Dave

its back to how TT had it, I think MinkerBoy from here has it and it hasn't been taxed because the previous owner had it stuck in a garage (think people thought it was crashed)

I believe minker boy is gonna put it back on its own reg but you will have to ask him (if he ever signs back in)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on July 20, 2013, 10:48:19 AM
The G260 NRA Dimma had TT's top 205 conversion on it & I think was red, thought I had a picture of it but can't find it. It was very rapid as you can imagine!

DVLA shows it has not been taxed or sorned since 17/03/1997 so got to be dead!


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Yeah that is the one mate.
I believe it is now back to standard and should be making some more appearances around Dewsbury.

You mean it's back to how TT had it for the shows not a boggo xr4x4 lol ;D



Just seen it outside my house looking beautiful and sounding awesome please ignore my vauxhall lol

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r584/Webbo_VXR/d8ed010db240d84c68a991f753deb11a_zpsee644594.jpg)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: capri v8 driver on July 20, 2013, 19:20:01 PM
Paint.net does wonders to make a vauxhul disappear  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on July 20, 2013, 21:01:45 PM
Don't be mean to my Vauxhall :(
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: capri v8 driver on July 21, 2013, 18:56:57 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on September 03, 2013, 12:50:49 PM
Seems its for sale on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-FORD-SIERRA-XR4X4-I-MINKER-TURBO-TECHNICS-/130971086988?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e7e7c308c
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: cossiemk2 on September 03, 2013, 13:01:52 PM
Seems its for sale on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-FORD-SIERRA-XR4X4-I-MINKER-TURBO-TECHNICS-/130971086988?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e7e7c308c

AGAIN!

It's not a real Minker, just the body kit. And it's a 2.8.
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on September 03, 2013, 14:45:43 PM
its the development car I know, 2.8 but the one Noel Edmonds drove
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on September 03, 2013, 15:50:45 PM
It's the same car I have (mk2 TT250), but with the bodykit. I'd think I was lucky to get £5K for mine, so how a bodykit adds £12K I'm not quite sure :unsure:
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on September 06, 2013, 08:50:42 AM
a lot of flaws in that ebay add.

Its not a 2.9 and it had a new clock at 18k so wonder if thats taken into account with the mileage
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: littlegems4x4 on September 06, 2013, 11:14:31 AM
Quite a few people have messaged him to let him know that the ad isn't right, he just replies by saying that they are a Ford boffin, and no-one knows anything about this car!!

Seems to me that it's him who knows nothing about it ;)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on September 06, 2013, 16:01:07 PM
seems he bought it thinking it was a full on minker (I did until I came on here)

My dad bought it from the motorshow I think and he said that show was 1988
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: TwinTurbo on September 07, 2013, 10:11:03 AM
Anyone thinking of buying it at any high price would either have to be A Noel fan or a Sierra Fan.

Either would probably do a bit of research and would end up here and find out the truth.

The guy selling it now has either been done up like a kipper by being lazy and not researching or has got it dirt cheap and is trying to fleece some unsuspecting person. At the end of the day he has been told, he has not altered his adverts and as such he is blatantly attempting to defraud.



TT
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on September 07, 2013, 11:14:28 AM
Yeah I think he does think he has the first proper Minker!

I did feel sorry for the guy but after what I have been told about him threatening people on the phone & generally being an idiot I think he got what he deserves!!!

It is not & never was a MINKER!

YNBK - you may be able to help me here as I have looked at this car again due to all the interest & something is not right with the time line.

The car was first reged on - 25 01 1988

TT messed about with it converting it to a F37 TT250 & then fitted the Minker K1 prototype body kit for testing etc & also the prototype K1 interior a bit later.

Car was shown at the 88 Motofair - 22 10 1988

It was said to be the finished example but it was not because they was still testing the 2.9 engine on the engine dyno.

Now a few months later the car was fitted with it's plate which I have a picture of.

 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Dated  09 05 1989

Now this is about the time when I assumed the car was sold by TT & probably bought by your parents!

However the Noel Edmunds video is from the October 89 Moto Fair ????
The plate on the video from the pug is dated 08 08 1989.

Yet at the 1989 Moto Fair I have pictures of the production ready Blue Minker K1 at the show, the invite that shows it & the covering letter!
Also the Blue K1 reg is from August 1989 which fits.


So I now think TT had the Blue full on Minker K1 on the stand at the 1989 Moto Fair.
They also had the TT250 prototype either at the show or went & got it from Northampton for Top Gear.
The Red TT250 is the car Noel drove on the video with the plates from a Pug 205 probably the TT175 that was on the stand with the Blue K1.

Your parents bought the TT250 at the show & may have even driven it home as TT didn't need it any more.

How does that sound to you????


Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on September 09, 2013, 08:19:36 AM
Dave

I will have a word with my dad but tbh I doubt he will have a clue he's still arguing with me that it is a minker lol he thought it was too

My parents are 100% sure it was bought in 1988 motorshow of some kind
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on September 10, 2013, 23:56:18 PM
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My parents are 100% sure it was bought in 1988 motorshow of some kind

Ask them if they explain how Noel drove it on the 1989 Top Gear Moto Fair special with 89 reg plates on it then ;) lol
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: YNBK on December 09, 2013, 11:01:40 AM
Hi Dave

Just had a chat about this and your comment put doubt into his head :)

He said he test drove a black one and then bought this one but isn't sure when now but was deffo at the motorshow.

heres a pic of when he owned it.

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r584/Webbo_VXR/9AC45285-2A71-499C-874A-9885CBF0326A_zpsq7m51fcu.jpg) (http://s1173.photobucket.com/user/Webbo_VXR/media/9AC45285-2A71-499C-874A-9885CBF0326A_zpsq7m51fcu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Minker by Turbo Technics
Post by: Dave on December 16, 2013, 23:27:54 PM
Hi Dave

Just had a chat about this and your comment put doubt into his head :)

He said he test drove a black one and then bought this one but isn't sure when now but was deffo at the motorshow.

It is sounding more like a 1990 Moto show then mate.

The Black Minker (MNK004) was not built until mid 1990 & was on an H plate.
It had no body kit fitted.

Just looking at the facts we have proved it could not have been the 1988 show.

Either 89 or 90 most probably.